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The election fraud lawsuits have started again.

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But Trump chose to stoke the flames Wednesday morning, posting on Truth Social that "Pennsylvania is cheating, and getting caught, at large scale levels rarely seen before."

"Law enforcement must act, NOW!" he added.

Bucks County officials confirmed to NBC Philadelphia that they had been notified of the lawsuit, but did not provide further comment. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, meanwhile, shot back at the Republican presidential nominee, highlighting that Trump and his allies have spent the last four years actively corroding public trust in U.S. elections---and that they are currently warming up their second conspiracy to undermine the 2024 election results.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did his file it himself? Because Im amazed that any lawyer will help him without cash up front.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (6 children)

From The Guardian:

The queues for late mail ballots were a result of Pennsylvania not having an early on-site voting system at designated spots, as is the case in some other states. Instead, voters can apply for ballots on demand at election offices before filling them out and submitting them on the spot, a procedure that takes about 10 minutes.

The flood of late applicants overwhelmed electoral workers in Bucks county’s administration building in Doylestown, leading to a long queue, which was cut off at about 2.45pm on Tuesday

I went to drop off my ballot on Saturday and when I got there, not to the main office in Doylestown, but one of the smaller remote offices, and there was a huge line all the way across the front of the building and I was wondering what the heck was going on.

As I was getting to the end of the line, a person came over and asked if I already had my ballot, and when they saw it, they said I could go right in and drop it off. There was only one couple ahead of me there.

I had been wondering what the line was for, and now that makes sense. The Republicans had made the mail in ballot more complicated than necessary during COVID, so now they seem to feel it biting them as their potential supporters have been screwed by it.

“Democrat election officials are seeing our numbers. They’re seeing our turnout. They are seeing us breaking early vote records across Pennsylvania,” he said. “They are terrified. And they want to stop our momentum. We are not going to let them suppress our votes.”

Pennsylvania does not start counting votes before election day. Nobody has any clue as to who is voting for whom.

They've broken the system and want to say "look at this broken system, we can't trust it!" To me that just shows we can't trust you!

I really hope Pennsylvanians do the right thing. These people need to be stopped.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

"Law enforcement must act, NOW!" he added.

Welp, he's right about that part! Just not the way he thinks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Good! Even though Last Year Literally NONE of his Lawsuits went Forward because there wasn't Evidence and then earlier This Year Trump admitted he lost in 2020 I KNOW this year he's going to be RIGHT!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but county officials had observed that there were complaints on social media (shared by the Trump campaign) about long lines to obtain mail-in ballots on Tuesday, the last day of their availability

This is all about allowing people to vote by mail in ballot??? What the fuck was his 2020 complaints all about???

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Entire states vote by mail and they work out fine. It’s a paper record. He should like that after all the voting machine conspiracy crap he’s been floating.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It’s not about what he likes, it’s about what can erode public trust in the process enough that people will reject the entire system and Trump can declare himself president without having to worry about the will of the people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not very surprising, they'll likely push multiple lawsuits in swing states. At least the state justice systems learned from 2020 and 2022 and are expediting these lawsuits to avoid dragging them out and further erode confidence in the electoral system.

LegalEagle published an early access video on Nebula for their paid subscribers explaining the different scenarios to come, and it should show up on YouTube soon.

EDIT: The video is out

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Yes, the lawsuits are part of their plan, because they know even when all these cases get thrown out because they got nothing (like last time) that the base (Trump's foot soldiers) will believe Trump saying the justice system is being used against him/them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he loses PA, he's done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Kamala is in a similar situation, if she loses PA she will have to win multiple swing states.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It kind of sucks that out of 50 states only a few "matter". It also seems to be that every election year now there is at least one state that doesn't have their shit together and we have to wait a week for results.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

It also seems to be that every election year now there is at least one state that doesn't have their shit together and we have to wait a week for results.

This has been part of the Republican long game. Like in Georgia when they wanted mandatory hand counts of every district and then try and compare those against the machine numbers to call count differences out as "obvious ballet tampering", when by the very nature of being human, hand counts are less accurate (especially on that scale). Just doing stuff that at a quick glance and no thought could maybe be perceived as "voting integrity" but is really all about voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Quite a lot of the misinformation out of PA stems from a willful ignorance of how all this stuff works.

For example... the voter registration drives turning in invalid registrations:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-registration-probes-launched-crucial-keystone-state-counties-amid-claims-potential-fraud

"District attorneys and election officials in both Lancaster County and York County are looking into potential election-related fraud after authorities received large batches of voter registration materials from a "third-party organization." Both York and Lancaster counties have more registered Republican voters than Democrats, according to state data, with York Republicans holding a 63% majority in the area and Lancaster Republicans at a 61% majority."

When you do a voter registration drive, you are legally obligated to submit all registrations, valid or not. The only entity with the legal authority to reject registrations as valid is the State Secretary of State office.

This is because, back in the day, parties would do registration drives and just shit-can any registration for opposing parties.

Now, even if some dumbass fills out a registration for "Mickey Mouse" or "Superman", it STILL has to be submitted to the Secretary of State for rejection.

That's not "voter fraud".

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Look how much time and text it took to refute a few tiny bullshit utterances. Its impossible even if it was desireable, which its not. He needs to be in custody and in 24/7 solitary with zero internet access. He's a goddamn terrorist

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[–] [email protected] 226 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Pennsylvania is cheating

How?

and getting caught

Where?

at large scale levels rarely seen before.

When?

"Law enforcement must act, NOW!"

By doing what exactly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I thought they were already getting caught?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

You see, he doesn't have evidence, but he has concepts of evidence.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 months ago (6 children)

"Gish Gallop."

It's a debate technique. You overwhelm the opposition with an endless stream of half truths, exaggeration's, lies, and tangents that make it impossible for them to get their point across.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We see Trump consistently make an outright lie, and in the same breath pivot to a personal attack such as “she’s a nasty woman.” This is another technique that adds something controversial after the lie so that the focus is on the controversial topic instead of the lie.

It makes it harder to peel what he says apart and puts space between the current point of conversation and the lie

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The most fucked up thing is that Trump isn’t doing this necessarily intentionally. He’s just so crazy, that this is how his brain works.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Trump once said that his personality hasn't changed since was a child.

He talks like a little kid; words just spew out without any rhyme or reason.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Bannon during Trump's term referred to this as "flood the zone with shit". Essentially just putting out such a large volume of nonsense that people just give up, you break their will to vote/argue/oppose you/fight back/correct the record.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bannon is clearly advising Trump again, now that he’s out of jail.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see he's applying for a second term them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s already waiting for another trial regarding defrauding people about funding the wall between the US and Mexico.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The only actual election interference I have heard about and people actually being charged is by the Republicans.

A lawsuit filed is not proof, I could file a lawsuit saying my neighbor stole my house. My house is still where it was but I could claim it's not and bring a lawsuit. I would lose but it's the principal of the fact that there is a suit that looks official and people think lawsuits means it's real.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Anyone can sue anyone for anything in this country. It may get tossed out right away but you can still file the lawsuit.

The general talk is that since being shot at he’s even more impulsive than prior.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

didn't scientology win their religionship status because they flooded individuals at the IRS with thousands upon thousands of bullshit lawsuits? saying "this can all stop. it's up to you"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations into and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries. It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history, with up to 5,000 covert agents. This operation also exposed the Scientology plot "Operation Freakout", because Operation Snow White was the case that initiated the U.S. government's investigation of the Church.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They have mountains of evidence, stacked to the ceiling with all the evidence from the 2020 election and Hunter's laptops

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

So this proof of election cheating is in Hunter Biden’s laptop? Makes about as much sense as any of this.

He’s likely shitting himself beyond the usual for not understanding Puerto Rican citizenship and voting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Floor to ceiling with birth certificates and emails

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Boxes and boxes of the stuff. All marked top secret. He's seen them too!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

They have concepts of evidence. Many people said so, and the orange utan saw it on tv, or read it online. He's just reporting what people are saying

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Blame Weird Old 34's enablers for not holding him accountable when they had the chance: Moscow Mitch McConnell, the conservative SCOTUS Justices, Merrick Garland's slowness, and so many more!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

That sounds like a form of dementia.

“Grandpa used to be a top notch line worker before he got the Merrick Garland’s slowness.”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The last good republican president.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, 34 as in the number of felony counts he was found guilty of

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