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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Is this image altered to make her look like Gollum?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

I wonder how much time would take the president of USA to justify new Mexico, Hawaii and Puerto Rico

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Damn Tucker Carlson, he sure made a career.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jokes asides, revanchism was one of the main ideological engines of the Italian facist party, from which Meloni takes strong cues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I take strong cues from it, too, and I'm not even Meloni or Italian. 🎶 You say revanchism, I say self-aware traditionalism, let's call the whole thing off🎶

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Italy is the funniest state ever conceived, up above Russia. The war in Ukraine is just Putin trying to take the number one spot.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Roman empire is eternal, after all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Romans had this thing called a fasces that symbolized power.

Maybe we should name this movement to restore the Roman Empire after this?

Fascesism? Not that's too long... Fascism... yeah that rolls off the tongue.

Wonder if anyone has thought of this before?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Sounds good to me. Time to bring enlightenment to the disgusting barbarians once again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Could there be a small Gaulish village that resists them?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Italy's? Dont you mean Greece's? Italians(romans) were just wannabe greeks, greekaboos. Literally every aspect of roman society is copied from the greeks. And luckily for us, greeks were one of the first people who started writing down shit, in a language we can understand, so there is no reason to go further back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Twitch that is some damn good bait

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If Greeks wanted the glory they should've beaten the Romans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Greeks did beat the romans. Imagine if the US militaraly/politically declined and Canada became the world's super power. Is Canada a thing? Not really, it is America's hat(if we exclude the weirdo frenchies). Canadians are culturally americans.

Do you think they watch canadians movies in the cinemas?

The romans might had military defeated the greeks but the greeks culturally dominated the romans. Romans took a lot of greeks to Rome and made learning the greek language "the fancy" thing that all educated and cultured romans expected to know.

Thats how eventually the Eastern Roman Empire(or Byzantine Empire, as the filthy westerners try to rebrand it), became more and more greek.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

>Gets conquered and becomes a literal subject to the other state

>"Heh well we actually won because you like our culture"

Bit of a cope, innit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I mean it's an interesting thing. What does it mean to win? The Greeks had a very strong soft power and even while they were subjects they received special treatment because the Romans believed the Greeks were civilized.

In a different but similar way, the Jews ended up conquering the Roman Empire. After the Jewish rebellion a few decades after the death of Christ, the Romans sent a large army to take back Jerusalem.

They ended up sick and tired of the constant issues with the Jews so they made Judaism illegal and scattered the Jews they could. What was the end result of this?

Certain Jews who considered themselves Christian (which up until this point was a sect of Judaism) did their best to distance themselves from the Jews. They made their religion a little easier for Roman gentiles to understand and resonate with.

Eventually this religion scattered throughout the empire along with the Jews and became the state religion.

In an attempt to stamp out an annoying religion in the Middle East, the Romans inadvertently created the conditions for that annoying religion to take over the empire.

What does it mean to win? I'm not saying this to cope, like you pointed out. It's just an interesting discussion. And to bring it back full circle - the New Testament was written in Greek.

Paul, the writer of half of the New Testament was a Greek Jew. The Greeks once again influence the cultural fate of the Roman Empire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear turned the Romans into Greeks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, Greeks clung onto the Roman identity for a really long time. And I mean even after being taken over by Ottomans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Eastern Roman Identity. Long live Basileus kai Autokratōr Rhōmaíōn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Greek detected, opinion rejected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

In your face, Plato!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Its true. Many people believe that anal sex was invented by the italians, but that too was invented in ancient Greece. The romans merely took it and adapted it for use with women.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hear you're a racist now, Father!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If we go back far enough, most countries in Eurasia today belong to Iraq (Mesopotamia) following that logic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

due to pedigree collapse, i claim ancestral rights to everything...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

But if you go all the way back, all countries belong to Jeb!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Didn't human life evolve in modern day Ethiopian? So technically, every country belongs to Ethiopians and their descendants.

But since all humans are Ethiopian descendants, it should be all good in the neighborhood

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well maybe culturally influenced but Mesopotamia didnt "conquer" Greece. Well Persia conquered greek cities in western Anatolia(Turkey) but that happened later on. As i wrote, before classical Greece, you are basically entering a prehistoric era from which we only have myths and archeological artifacts. What little text we have from back then is either too limited or incomprehensible or non historically accurate(myths).

As far as Greece is concerned, there was the Minoan civilization(in the island of Crete and other islands), whose writing(linear A) has basically nothing in common with (ancient) greek. We still havent decyphered Linear A. They are the basis for the whole Atlantis myth and they were probably destroyed by a tsunami(Santorini's volcano going boom).

After them we had the Mycenaean civilization, which is a greek mainland one. They used linear B, which was between linear A and greek. We have mostly decyphered linear B. Myceneans are the trojan war greeks.

After that we had or maybe didnt have the "dorian invasion"(northern greeks? fucking/conquering the Myceneans??? noone knows), which caused cultural changes and many centuries of "dark age". And only after that we had the classical greek city states and the start of history.

History and national identities are very messy. And once you start going prehistoric, it is even more ridiculous. Which is why every country has artificially created its own national myth/history.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does the Dorian period occur at the same time as The Bronze Age Collapse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I looked further into The Mycenaean Collapse, and it seems that the current archeological consensus seems to be that The Dorian Invasion didn't actually happen.

https://youtu.be/s-J8VGFG1Bg?si=eji1F0V-Klne0m2k

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I am starting to think Tucker is not interviewing but enlisting people for his new superpower.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

wait, which focus path should i be taking in hoi4?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The one where you put the pope in absolute power

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The ones that leads to the united nations of earth for your Stellaris playthrough

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes. As long as you don't end up like those Commonwealth of man losers

[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago

All of Europe? Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but North Africa, Siciliy, Corsica, Sardinia and Iberia all already rightfully belong to the Vandals.

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