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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These people haven't had an original thought in well over a decade. The dems make a radical shift in expected campaign activity and now the republicans want to change thing up, too.

The Washington Post on Sunday detailed how several far-right figures with large online followings—including white supremacist Nick Fuentes and activists Laura Loomer and Candace Owens—have been stirring discord by publicly criticizing the Trump campaign, arguing that he needs new leadership who will direct him to take harder-line stances on topics like race and immigration.

They want an even bigger racist asshole to run.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

LOL my friend, you give too much credit. Rats and sinking ships are as far as we need to analyze. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I've been against the orange dickhead's campaign since before it was fashionable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Look, the fascists are having a barroom brawl. Pass the popcorn, would you?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

I'm glad the Democratic Party has found their footing for once around an inclusive message...

Because the Republican party is falling hard into a "no true MAGAtsman" trap. Guys like Fuentes are going to keep pushing their group to the fringe, and also for once Democrats aren't going to follow them in compromising lock-step.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Et tu, neo-facists?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Lol, yeah do what the white supremacist wants you to do. Fuckin idiots

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

So, the difference between these clowns and Rittenhouse is that he dared criticize President Convict himself while they're focusing on the Trump campaign team, which is why he got cancelled and they aren't so far. Even though if you think about it, criticizing his campaign is basically still just criticizing the man himself, since it's his team.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You mean tough badass dude Kyle Ritte house...

No take backs...

Well, some take backs...

OK, full take back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, logically you can't separate Trump's campaign from him.

If he's in control of it, his campaign mistakes are his own. If he's not in control of it, he's not even in control of his own presidential campaign and isn't taking control to correct it.

So either he's bad at running a campaign or he's bad at picking competent people to delegate it to.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It also normalizes the idea of some criticism of Trump within their circle. Historically, they've kind of given him an auora of being 100% perfect in every way

A tiny crack into that could expand to more (and hopefully it will)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

A schism in the ism is all I need to jism.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Down with the trump campaign. He is a felon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So they can say they abandoned the ship before he lost.

That way they seem like less of a loser themselves.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

To expand on that, I think these are people looking to set themselves up for continued grifting in the post-Trump fascist movement. Being just critical enough “of the Trump campaign” now will allow them to say they jumped ship in August 2024 without actually committing to abandoning Trump until after the election. They want to be in a position to claim they were ahead of the curve due to their astute political acumen. But don’t want the short term fall out from actually doing it, nor the potential risk of being proven wrong in November.

It’s a transparent move, but it’ll be effective on the post-Trump MAGA base, as these are generally not bright people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Excellent hand eye coordination, you hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly what they're trying to do: come out as a "winner" no matter what actually happens.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

I'm not trying to be mean, but who cares?

If they wanna break the cult up I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

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