Same I will be working on the 4th so I’ll just be making good hoilday pay while most of my trump supporting coworkers will be celebrating the downfall of this country. Fuck this shit, fuck everyone who is onboard with the current situation of this country. Stay safe everyone.
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Patriotism is jingoism at this point. Haven't felt that for decades.
People around the country have stood up to make change.
Our politicians haven't done good for the people.
Take back the power.
Join a No Kings March on July 4th
Celebrate the awesome people of this country, join in.
We want massive change. Politicians may act deaf to anything but money. The money flow changes when we stand together
You know what will make you feel better? Learn about early American history, specifically the Revolutionary War and the period shortly before it. Ordinary citizens conquered one of the most powerful militaries in the world. Ordinary citizens. People like you and me. There was no “perfect savior” to lead them, either - George Washington was in over his head at first, but was smart enough to learn from his mistakes.
What’s going on now is nothing to celebrate, but the ani-establishment heroes of the past certainly are.
Learn about early American history, specifically the Revolutionary War and the period shortly before it.
The Regulator Movement in North Carolina, also known as the Regulator Insurrection, War of Regulation, and War of the Regulation, was an uprising in Provincial North Carolina from 1766 to 1771 in which citizens took up arms against colonial officials who they viewed as corrupt. Historians such as John Spencer Bassett argue that the Regulators did not wish to change the form or principle of their government, but simply wanted to make the colony's political process more equal. They wanted better economic conditions for everyone, instead of a system that heavily benefited the colonial officials and their network of plantation owners mainly near the coast
During the American Revolution, many prominent Regulators became Loyalists, like James Hunter who fought at the Battle of Moore's Creek Bridge. ... The Regulators notably were never against the monarchy - their issue was with local corruption and elites abusing them.
Dunmore's Proclamation was formally proclaimed on November 15. Its publication prompted between 800 and 2,000 slaves (from both Patriot and Loyalist owners) to run away and enlist with Dunmore. It also raised a furor among Virginia's slave-owning elites (including those who had been sympathetic to Britain), to whom the possibility of a slave rebellion was a major fear.
Later British commanders over the course of the American Revolutionary War followed Dunmore's model in enticing slaves to defect—the 1779 Philipsburg Proclamation, which applied across all the colonies, was more successful. By the end of the war, at least 20,000 slaves had escaped from plantations into British service
Shays's Rebellion was an armed uprising in Western Massachusetts and Worcester in response to a debt crisis among the citizenry and in opposition to the state government's increased efforts to collect taxes on both individuals and their trades.
When the Revolutionary War ended in 1783, Massachusetts merchants' European business partners refused to extend lines of credit to them and insisted that they pay for goods with hard currency, despite the country-wide shortage of such currency. Merchants began to demand the same from their local business partners, including those operating in the market towns in the state's interior. Many of these merchants passed on this demand to their customers, although Governor John Hancock did not impose hard currency demands on poorer borrowers and refused to actively prosecute the collection of delinquent taxes. The rural farming population was generally unable to meet the demands of merchants and the civil authorities, and some began to lose their land and other possessions when they were unable to fulfill their debt and tax obligations. This led to strong resentments against tax collectors and the courts, where creditors obtained judgments against debtors, and where tax collectors obtained judgments authorizing property seizures.
Just remember that the American Revolution was a bourgeois revolution that failed to address many of the underlying economic conditions plaguing the colonies from the outset. Yes, the American merchant class beat back the British Monarchists. But no, that wasn't a happily-ever-after for the proletariat of the nascent nation.
I believe you're supposed to fly a flag upside down in times of distress.
I think it would be wildly powerful for some cities to flip their flags for the 4th.
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Right now I'd call my mood more embarrassed than patriotic.
I would be very concerned about anybody who is feeling patriotic this year
being hopeful and not having given up is one thing. but patriotic? entirely shameful
I'm gonna be drunk enough to quiet the fireworks. Every 4th in LA, it's like a war zone.
Havent felt proud to be an American in a long while. I'm proud of loving thy neighbor as myself, not lining the pockets of billionaires. I hate that I'm powerless to do much. Representative democracy? My ass. No one represents me. They're all aristocrats. "it's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"
I'm not bitter about it at all. /s
I haven't gone to see fireworks in a few years. Recently I just go to Walmart and buy some big packs and let my kids enjoy lighting them off and just having fun. Plus the long weekend is awesome.
I haven't believed in America in a few years now. Certainly not since the pandemic. As far as I'm concerned, the state I'm from is the only place I owe any allegiance to. The other states can go fuck themselves, especially the red ones
Celebrating America hasn't been something to be proud of since before 2001. We had a couple of high points during Obama, but nothing that tipped the scales.
I'm personally disgusted by this place, and anytime I see someone with an American flag anywhere on their person or property, I immediately assume they're a conservative and I think lesser of them. I know that this isn't a reality, but that is what the American flag means to me, and I assume quite a few others.
Absolutely like that for me. Or Christians. If I know you're a Christian within 15 min of meeting you, we are not going to be friends.
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The last patriotism got squeezed out of me a good decade ago.
I could give two shits about this holiday.
We used to have porch lights twinkling in red, white, and blue all July. This year, we're just flashing blue adamently. And that only because our lights can't radiate black.
Careful, you might get mistaken for Thin Blue Line folks.
i'm also staying home. if someone "how dare you!"'s you, tell them you like celebrating not-fascist countries.
personally, i think i'll adopt and celebrate mexico's holidays
Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Nobody has ever liked everything about the US. Not even George Washington. If you can't appreciate the good about the country just because you're paying attention to the bad currently then you should have never celebrated it in the first place because the bad was always there.
The things you dont like about America don't have to be your complete view of the country or its history. If there is even a small thing you have ever liked about the country then the 4th is for celebrating that.
Celebrate our victories. Celebrate our culture and our successes. Celebrate how mad people are going to be at you for celebrating. Celebrate that there are like-minded people elsewhere in the country. Real Americans in hard times and with doubts. Celebrate our history and our positive contributions to the rest of the world.
Celebrate a possible and hopeful future of what comes after.
I liked when we stopped putting immigrants in interment camps after WWII. They're building new one now so what am I meant to celebrate again?
This, but OP, I think, pointed to the issue maybe without realizing it:
If you feel you are just a.cog in a capitalist machine and not a citizen of a country, why would you celebrate?
It feels like Fox news and all the wedge issues have done their work and destroyed our sense of collective citizenship. Now the GOP is doing their corporate owners' bidding.
If you feel you are just a.cog in a capitalist machine and not a citizen of a country, why would you celebrate?
I do feel like a cog. I don't feel like a valued citizen -- I just feel like some schmuck the administration and/or multinational corporations can siphon money from. The attitude of the USA doesn't feel like "Let's work together to make a great place!" Lately, it feels more to me like "Fuck everyone else, I want to get paid!"
It feels almost abusive.
One of the craziest things to me is it's 100% demonstrable the USA spends some of the most money per person on health care and does not get anywhere close to the top outcomes in health care, but if you ask people on the street, many of them will say USA is #1 in healthcare.
That's the point where patriotism turns the corner into delusion.
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I’m excited, it’s British Thanksgiving!
Britains, thanks for giving up.
- The founding immigrants