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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

It’s a free show. With the right people it’s good, but I understand your feeling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

"Come all ye young rebels And list while I sing For the love of one's country Tis a terrible thing It banishes fear with the Speed of a flame And makes us all part of The patriot's game...."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

I'm celebrating Happy Fireworks Day!

I've got new neighbors that are probably about to hear, "Fire in the hole!" unironically for the first time. You can actually see the shockwave from my blackpowder signal cannon. Good chance the cops show up.

I usually use the cannon to vaporize 10oz of kerosene for a nice mushroom cloud of fire, but I'll have to see how it goes.

I'm a pyro.

Y'all wear safety glasses if having bottle rocket fights or roman candle duels.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

Because of Patriotism they had it so easy to turn it into Nationalism and now turn it to fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Best day to begin taking your country back. Too bad the couch is so comfy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 56 minutes ago

You know there are people out there who are actually getting off their couch and fighting?Active revolution isn’t for everyone, but you don’t have to keep normalizing laziness and cowardice. You can instead use your voice to encourage action.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I imagine almost everyone who's not American, like 95.5% of the world population.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago

Feeling patriotic towards a country of traitors.

US best values have been lost long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why feel patriotic for a country that literally stole/claimed what wasn't theirs to being with? Never felt such a thing for this so called "first world".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people's instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

World history for millennia has shown that the conquerors write the rules. Ownership is established immediately upon victory. It matters not if you're a yanomamo tribe living 1000 years ago or a modern military 1st world country. The victors write the rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 53 minutes ago

Isn’t the whole point of civilization to get away from the tyranny of men with sharp sticks? We can’t let the crimes of our ancestors justify modern crimes.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 17 hours ago

why celebrate independence day?

it was supposed to be about gaining independence from tyranny.

We're back with kings and tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 19 hours ago

Our country is under MAGA Nazis rule, and that is nothing to celebrate. Independence Day should be a Day of Resistance, until the MAGA Nazis lose their control.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly nationalism for the US has always been kinda gross to me. We've never really had much to be proud of as a nation historically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

Well in that case there probably isn't a single nation ever that should be proud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

Lot of people I know are staying home, Generally on the 4th, for the last decade trumpers get black out drunk and end up killing people with their boats and gaint trucks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

Sounds like a great day for a false flag attack to solidify the masses against a perceived threat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian here and we celebrated the fuck out of our national holiday which just passed. We have a stronger feeling of solidarity than we've felt in a long time. Despite the threats of annexation and shifting tariffs, we are feeling more hopeful than we have in many years, possibly because we're making new friends in the global sandbox and coming into our own power now instead of constantly kowtowing to the USA in all matters.

Except a few folks in Alberta who would love to be part of the modern Nazi regime. Fuck them, tho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Personally, I'm not feeling that same vibe. I think the solidarity against the US is a very good thing, but the sheer amount of ways Canada is just "America Light" is very depressing. Its to the point that our flag has been so sullied by absolutely shit tier movements in the last 5 years that I can't stand to see it anymore.

Every time I see a private flag pole, bumper stickers or anything kind of patriotic merch my knee jerk reaction is "I bet this dude's a fuckwad." I know that I'm painting with a huge and shitty brush but I just can't even fight against it anymore. I know it's wrong. I just don't care, and that makes me sad.

I live comfortably here, but given even a minutely convenient reason to emigrate I think I'd take it.

Canada is a car infested, anti-human shit hole just like America. To paraphrase Steve Harris of Iron Maiden a bit "We oil the jaws of the ~~war~~ capitalist machine and feed it with our ~~babies~~ immigrants."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I've felt like that for years, too. But Canadians boycotting en masses, then soundly rejecting mini-Trump has given me hope. Since then, our leader has been reaching out to other countries to form new relationships and deals. We just signed a rare earth minerals deal with Greenland, of all places.

Yes, Canada has been hamstrung by US demands but the vice-grip they've had over us has deteriorated. This wouldn't have happened if not every single other country in the world was going through the same thing. So it feels a bit like a rebirth to me, with the possibility of finally being able to come into our own as a nation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

I've never celebrated the 4th of July because I've been patriotic, I've done it because it's fun. When I stopped believing in God I didn't stop celebrating Christmas. In the same way Christmas is about gifts and seeing family, the 4th of July is about fireworks and seeing friends.

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