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my unpopular opinion is that they are a waste of time and effort.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I would have no problem with a few internationally funded standardized Olympic facilities with rotating hosts that offer their nations cuisine and hospitality to the games.

Sort of a reverse tourism thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

The sports and competition are not. Will my kids ever be Olympic athletes? Probably not. But there's been a hell of a lot of pretending going on at my house the past month, and I like that.

Is moving the Olympics ever 4 years and building bigger, more elaborate facilities purely as a dick measuring contest a waste of time and effort? Absolutely, 100%.

They should just pick a location and stick to it. Same with the World Cup.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You could say the same to your favourite sporting events like MMA, Superbowl, Euro Finals, Copa America, and even e-sports, etc.

I can see where you're coming from but the Olympics is a healthy way for countries to compete with each other, instead of going on battlefields. Like the other poster mentioned, the Olympics promote international cooperation. For example, even though China is getting a bad rap in international politics, their athletes have notably been professional and wholesome which boost their country's image.

I also think that the high prestigious image of the Olympics will inspire more people to pursue sports; regardless of whether or not they will want to compete in the event. It's still good to be healthy!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically all professional sports.

I believe sports should be done for fun and exercise. Not as a professional career.

Almost nothing good comes from professionally played sports. It only brings the worst of human beings.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The original olympics promoted well-rounded athletes who would compete in many sports, not just yak-shaving on one particular sport.

I think the spirit of the original olympics was more humanistic, as it was implicit that some athletes would be good in some events but not so good in others, a.k.a they were all winners

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While I certainly believe many sports events are really just a waste of money, Olympics is probably not.

Not only does it serve as a way to promote sports worldwide, boosting public health and inspiring people, it also is a remarkable feat of international cooperation, contributing to the relative peace and harmony.

Now, all those football leagues and stuff should really vanish. They cost way more than their benefit could ever be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

contributing to the relative peace and harmony.

There's no way you're talking this way about the Fucking Olympics...

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/05/human-rights-abuses-will-taint-olympics-and-world-cup-its-time-end-sportswashing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

remarkable feat of international cooperation

But it shouldn't be political. Get rid of the countries endorsement of said athletes, so that both israeli and russian athletes can compete, instead of deciding which one depending on political affiliation.

Of course that would turn the olympics into a purely individualistic endeavour¹, and funding for training athletes would likely fall on private enterprise² who would likely only fund already good budding athletes³ instead of funding schools and communities in general.

¹ - read: "Go Bell!" instead of "Go GB!"
² - read: replace country badges with BMW logos
³ - read: rich kids from good homes

So, in conclusion: *shrug emoji*

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Russian athletes not being able to compete has nothing at all to do with constant doping scandals and is purely political?

LOL give me a fucking break

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

wait, all the russian athletes failed drug tests? I had no idea.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I love the idea of the Olympics and would like to see a version that wasn't an environmental, economic, and humanitarian trash fire.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Globally your position is extremely popular.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My similar opinion is that Americans could have Universal healthcare for a decade if they gave up the money they spend on football for just one year. NFL. College ball, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We could have universal healthcare if we take the money the us government already spends and cut out the middleman. In fact we would save money that doesn't even include what we spend already. Insurance is a scam and the fact healthcare and insurance became a for profit industry in 1970s....says a whole lot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Didnt the CBO say we'd save like 5 trillion dollars over 10-20 years if we did that filthy socialist thing of giving Americans ~~universal healthcare~~ "Medicaid for all"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ya know, they could keep the football if they gave up the "destabilising countries and murdering brown people" thing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

See!? Even in a theoretical post you're not willing to give up football and came up with another thing to point your finger at

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They could have all of that if they gave up even one billionaire. And nothing of value would be lost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

they could have even more money to murder innocent people if they just fixed their stupid system. they currently pay more per person on healthcare than countries with a functioning healthcare system.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

For the athletes, it's a not a waste of time and effort.

For the hosting countries/cities?

They cost a TON of time and money, and it's a dubious proposition that the host cities ever recover that investment. Olympic villages are also rarely the best possible use of prime land, and often involve buying up and gentrifying entire neighborhoods for the purpose of building the facilities, and for the duration of the event, and the planning leading up to it, your city basically gives up autonomy to an organization that spends your resources as if they were their own in order to create a platform to sell advertising rights in the guise of sportsmanship. For the Olympics to be more sustainable and less corrupted by commercial interests, they should focus less on spectacle and expenditure and rely more on existing infrastructure.

Furthermore, while sport is an important and noble endeavor, it is by no means any more important than any other human endeavor, and every four years we have to be exposed to the intersection of sports and politics in discussions about nations that, for example, allow medalists to avoid conscription or escape poverty in various countries in exchange for bringing national prestige, and rarely do we take the opportunity to discuss what this says about our priorities, simply accepting the elevated prestige we place on this particular sporting event without question.

In short, I don't agree their cancellation would cause NOTHING of value to be lost, but the Olympics as an event in its current incarnation has PLENTY worth reevaluating, and we could all benefit greatly from reexamining its scale and role.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Definitely unpopular.

However, I mostly agree with you.

I still like the idea of the Olympics in the way it's marketed to be, a time of peaceful athletic competition and communication between nations and peoples.

And, I can't lie, it is one of the few times that individual sports that I'm more into watching ever get air time at all. Like, you don't see judo, or archery, or shooting, or even wrestling on regular tv often at all, even back when I still had cable. Team sports, you can see all damn day, all times of the year, but individual sports don't usually have the same kind of industry built around them.

Which, that's part of the problem, the way some sports turn into a money making machine rather than a genuine competition for sport's sake.

But, yeah, I get tired of the masturbatory commentary, the circle jerk nature of opening ceremonies, the back room bullshit of how it's all arranged and located. It's a shit ton of resources better allocated to actually making things better instead of entertaining the masses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Lemmy hates sports

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sex trafficers would lose major revenue source!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Honestly, not to be mean or anything, BUT, this sorta reeks of "I don't like it so nobody else should."

This is a type of mentality that I believe to be highly negative and frankly kinda toxic. Your welcome to your opinion, but I really don't think the many many hours, days, weeks, months, and years of effort, training and planning that goes into those who both run and participate in the Olympics is a waste of time and effort.

Also we live in a world that you can just block or ignore anything you don't particularly care for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, not to be mean or anything, BUT, this sorta reeks of “I don’t like it so nobody else should.”

As someone who had to learn how to avoid these feelings after growing up with parents who felt this way about everything, OP is clearly just salty that people like something they don't like.

There are legitimate problems with the Olympics, and the scale of the spectacle, international attention and amount of people and money involved really lends itself to the worst of modern humanity. But that doesn't mean nobody can enjoy them, that just means that the world needs to push to improve the Olympics further

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"...so nobody else should"

I don't think OP ever said that, nor did they imply it. I interpret OP's unpopular opinion as nothing more than "it's not for me".

But I guess there is some room for ambiguity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Sure, but plenty of things I don't like I still wouldn't call a waste of time and effort.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They all have their world championships already so they can already compete there (and I mean, that's exactly what a multitude of sports do in fact, hell, climbers weren't that happy about how the sport was added to the Olympics and some high ranking competitors just didn't bother even trying to go).

The environmental and socioeconomic impact of the Olympics make them something we really should consider at least making permanently held in a specific location.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Olympics is a time to celebrate athletes in sports we don't follow every day.

I don't watch baseball, soccer, basketball, etc at the Olympics because they all get plenty of air time.

In the last week I watched water polo, gymnastics, breakdancing, volleyball, skateboarding, and more.

There's an event (modern pentathlon) that consists of pistol shooting, fencing, Horsemanship, running, and swimming. That's a fascinating mix of disciplines and there are people who train for decades to be good at it, and I think it's wonderful that they get their time in the spotlight every few years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Modern_Pentathlon_Championships

Again, just considering the environmental and socioeconomic impact of the Olympics should be enough to convince everyone that we need to stop hosting them or that we should host them in a fixed location with only the athletes going.

Homeless people get kicked out of cities and no one cares what happens to them. Billions in public funds are spent without a return on investment, very often to buy infrastructure that is then left to rot. The impact on the environment is incredibly high (this year's Olympics are evaluated to have released 1.5m tons of CO2 pretty much evenly split between traveling, construction and game operations).

If you think about all of that you then realize that the Olympics literally kill people and it's just another thing we're spending public funds on to enrich private corporations at the expense of the public's well-being.

We're not responsible enough to host that kind of events responsibly.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19406940.2023.2271487#abstract

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/economics-hosting-olympic-games

https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-explainer-086d71dfa93128a2c5a302cb47ec3524

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm, an interesting take. The Olympics, being an international multinational event, being in a singular location could cause political tension between countries. It would have to be on neutral land for such a thing to work. Maybe some of that unclaimed land In Africa?

Edit: messed up the formatting by accident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That would mean a private company becoming the owner of land that isn't part of a country, would be kind of weird wouldn't it?

They're already registered in Switzerland so let them deal with it, countries should refuse to host them considering the cost and the fact that there's no return on investment in the end.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Swiss winter Olympics Greek summer Olympics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I mean that could work from my American perspective, I'm unsure about other parts of the world. Perhaps we shouldn't care about those sort of silly high school level drama between nations? I don't think I have enough understanding to know. But Switzerland is pretty so I'm down with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Also, if there’s any vision, aspiration for better, hope for improvement, expanding the limits of the human body is important, just as aspiring to ever improving science or technology

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