Get ‘em Dark Brandon!
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The problem is not presidential immunity. The problem is immunity and the president is just the highest profile job that has it. Politicians never do anything about the root cause, and only treat the symptoms.
Police officers get away with murder because their job gives them immunity. Ceos, shareholders and other corporate staff have immunity as well.
A president getting away with assassinating a political rival is just as unjust as letting a ceo get away with killing 346 people simply because their job gives them immunity for their actions.
The supreme court created both of those immunities as well.
Perfect should not be the enemy of Good. Reforming the entire system is not something that just happens. It takes several steps in the right direction and you have to start somewhere.
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It appears he’s pushing to add official ethics guidelines, not pack the court or anything that would radically change the fuckpit we’ve got now.
Public confidence in the court has slipped sharply in recent years.
lol
To be clear, this immunity obviously DOES NOT EXIST in the constitution and was invented out of whole cloth.
It's not like the constitution is some infallible magic text, it was also "invented" by some dudes.
It was also, at least according to Jefferson, intended to be replaced on a regular basis to better reflect the needs of the country.
Jefferson did write he wanted it remade every ~20 years. But that was a personal belief of his not the general understanding when the constitution was adopted.
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The way they interpreted it was invented, but there was precedent in the constitution
There's also the question of how a law that would criminalize an enumerated power could be constitutional as applied as. That'd be voiding the Constitution by statute rather than amendment.
Which would require the president to sign off on but could be weaponized against an incoming president if one party has the legislature and executive.
Please please please please
InB4 "WhY DiDn't hE Do iT WhEn hE HaD ThE MaJoRiTy?" Because he's calling for constitutional amendments that require a 2/3rds support in Congress and the SCOTUS may finally be disliked enough to get some GOP members to support reform, especially if it comes with limiting Biden's own immunity.
Expecting the GOP to cooperate on anything ever is a bit of a pipe dream
If he flexs his newfound immunity he could definitely stir the pot.
If he goes full Dark Brandon with his immunity, perhaps in his lame duck period, then that would be epic.
I got the popcorn ready.
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.
Removing threats to democracy because that democracy is so flawed that it gave you the power to do so legally, and then using that power to eliminate the ability for it to be used again, is heroic.
He must use the stones to destroy the stones
No way that majority exists, but the tv ads will be delicious and brutal
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Cool, next do the circuit courts! Especially the 5th!
Biden will make the announcement in Texas on Monday
Just twisting that knife in the wound. I love it.
What wound?
You don’t think proposing SCOTUS reform is going to help Republicans, do you?
Right, but the phrase implies this is just taking something that is already hurting them and making it worse.
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I'm here for it too! As long as he doesn't do it from an open car in Dallas..
Not to be morbid, but that's what got Johnson elected the next year, so...