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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

"Works best on Internet Explorer at 800×600"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's fine. It's just 25 pages, but they want 20 unique designs since those are all primary/landing pages. All on a normal sized screen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

And it must work on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Yeah but how many normal-sized screens do you want it displayed on? Everyone has one these days. That soon adds up.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

My dad does this, and I made a few bucks thanks to WordPress. Really, more thanks to Elementor because you can make a pretty snazzy website for cheap and the layman has no it took 2 hours to put together with templates. Lol

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Static, low-js, HTML tags used-as-intended, some basic CSS for formatting, responsivity and dark/light. Modern-looking accessible webpage from scratch done in half a day.

Btw, https://github.com/lyoshenka/awesome-motherfucking-website

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The irony of some dude trying to prove a point that a website doesn't need to be bloated and burdened with all the design and fancy scripts, just for other people to incrementally built on top of that idea, one-upping each other in the process, mimicking the exact evolution of the modern bloated website as we know it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

From one of them:

"You're a fucking moron if you use default browser styles."

Or just change your browser settings (they shouldn't be ugly by default).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly I hate the fact that browsers' default CSS exists. The person doing the frontend should have to specify their "default" CSS before the website even loads. I say this as both a user and a programmer, the same website shouldn't look different or break on different browsers unintentionally due to the browser's CSS, and I as a developer shouldn't have to rely on reset sheets to try to patch that.

Everything would be better if it were swapped around, instead of picking out a reset sheet for a site you pick out a default style...

The world would also be better if browsers rendered pugjs/slim and scss/sass and those were the default rather than html and css but I digress...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

You have a problem with Mosaic Gray?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If we assume "half a day" is 4 hours, and 500 pounds. That's 125 pounds per hour. Which isn't the worst rate. Assuming it's actually capped at 4 hours and we all know that if it's your dad's friend, this is not going to be a set and forget kind of thing. So that 4 hours quickly becomes 10. And suddenly you're down to 50 pounds per hour. And then if it's actually static and simple and good, you still have high odds of getting insane feedback demanding changes to make it worse. A motherfucking website would actually be the best option, but wouldn't get you paid. At that point youre just doing it for the lols.

But ultimately, this isn't even about the rate or how much time this will take. this whole scenario depends heavily on the son here. Is the son unemployed and living in dad's basement for free? Then yeah. Sorry, he should probably take any work he can get for any rate he can get. His dad gets a lot more say in how things work financially if the son is relying on him financially. But if the son is already working a full time job and living in his own house? Then no, I don't care what the rate is. Don't commandeer other people's time. Don't make deals that people haven't agreed to. Come to me with opportunities, not demands.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, sorry, i couldn't resist to hint on how ridicolously overengineered most professional webpages are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

You're not wrong, but a lot of time those webpages aren't overengineered because the developer wanted it to be, but because the client kept making more and more demands.

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