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Jeremy Clarkson: Just been for a walk round the farm and I'm a bit alarmed by how few butterflies there are.

Something is afoot.

Danny Wallace: Diesel-smelling Top Gear host who threatened climate protestors misses butterflies.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago

Considering his opinion on diesels that's actually a pretty scathing insult.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I only have hatred for one human and that Jeremy Clarkson.

Many years ago, not long after the MHxxx flight when missing, Mr Clarkson was on a flight on posted a picture of the fallen oxygen masks on his flight with some comment about I hope we don’t crash. This was shortly after it was determined what happened to the plane.

I made a comment on Twitter as a reply saying that’s not cool. To which Clarkson replied saying how am I supposed to know when I’m on a plane dummy, even though he just posted to Twitter from the plane.

What proceeded was thousands of messages from his fan boys calling me a loser and such. Which is confusing as I would argue the losers were the people defending this clown.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

Not Hitler, not Stalin, not Mao, not even General Butt Naked. Jeremy Clarkson. That's the guy who deserves the hate. Yep.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose he only cares about the climate because it now affects his farming business, that's it.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 5 months ago (5 children)

To those curious, do not check out the original post

Comments are entirely "cloud seeding", "blocking solar radiation with dangerous chemicals", and sensible people arguing for encouraging biodiversity being shut out, a few by Car Man himself

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Still plenty of asses around...

[–] [email protected] 363 points 5 months ago (14 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction. People can change their mind and that is a good thing. I would even go as far as calling it a very good sign that even a person as stubborn as the great ape Clarkson can change their opinion on this matter is absolutely fantastic. Good on Clarkson! And fuck the other guy for shoving up the past in his face when he is trying to be better.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

Standard issue conservative. They only complain when it begins to affect them. If he didn't have a farm, would he still have moved in that direction?

Nope.

A common characteristic of conservatives is a lack of empathy.

Am I happy he did? Yes.

Am I holding my breath that he'll actually vote for change? Nope.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, great. When it is too late suddenly the fucks who are responsible for this mess have a change of heart and deserve sympathies? Give me a break...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. There was a time when I didn't know how to multiply 6 by 5.

But I learned, as did I'm sure all of you.

Ignorance can be cured.

Punishing people for the ignorance of their past when their present self is trying to do better is wrong.

Maybe be a little more charitable towards your fellow man.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No. You don't get to "give back to the community" after shitting in the mental water reservoir for decades.

[–] [email protected] 151 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

But have they? His insistence at this point is that he doesn't have to do anything, or change anything, science will "solve the issue". Nothing better than someone who thinks any mess they make can be cleaned up by someone else so why bother trying to make any changes that makes your life slightly less convenient?

He added: ‘I won’t drive a Tesla. I’ve got probably 10 cars, all with V8 engines. I don’t think electric cars solve anything. Science is going to be needed here, not politics. Science will solve it eventually. Always does.’

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/29/problem-jeremy-clarksons-global-warming-joke-20736068/

To be fair. His farming ventures have moved his opinion on climate in a positive direction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

To be fair, it's corporations doing the vast majority of the polluting.

Where I live, electric cars are essentially a net-zero because most of our electricity comes from coal and gas.

Does that absolve any individual from doing what they can? Absolutely not.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He's right about electric cars not solving anything but wrong about politics not solving it. Science has already provided the solutions like over a decade ago but no one is willing to implement it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm really tired of this pervasive fantasy where people actually think we can get rid of all cars and bring public transport to the masses in the space of a year.

We live in a car centric society and changing that is going to take a decade at the minimum.

EVs are our best solutions currently, we don't have time to wait for trains or hydrogen. We should absolutely start trying to phase cars out completely but that doesn't negate the fact that saying "EVs don't help" is essentially being an oil barons mouthpiece.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

changing that is going to take a decade at the minimum.

And that’s way too optimistic. Given the life expectancy of modern autos, the “quick” option of EVs will be a couple decades or more.

Building car-centric towns and cities has taken most of a century of constant growth. Now those cities exist and we no longer have the growth so rebuilding them is a much bigger job. We’re talking many decades, likely a century or more. In the meantime we can’t afford to be stuck with ICE.

Although maybe you’re not from the US so the problem is not as severe. Here in Massachusetts we also have the advantage of so many towns and cities being built out before cars. We’re “behind” on being car-centric so hopefully can fix that trend more quickly

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Science is pushing electric cars for a reason. Clarkson's an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If you have 10 cars and buy an 11th thats electric you're not really solving anything. The problem is overconsumption moreso than method of propulsion, the bulk of a car's lifetime emissions are a result of manufacturing rather than daily use.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No it's capitalism and the car industry that wants to continue selling cars that are pushing for EVs.

Cars in general are bad for the environment and the people around them. EVs are a bit better than internal combustion, but it's not a miracle.

EVs still emit tons of rubber particles because of tire shedding, they are heavier and require more energy to move around, they still require vast amounts of paved parking and roads, and they can still crush pedestrians and animals.

If you have to have a car, it should be an EV if possible, but it would be better to reduce the amount of cars in cities and around us.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So we agree the man with 10 v8 engine cars should move to EVs or public transit rather than having 10 cars? Because he's saying fuck that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

He's not using all 10 at the same time every day for a multi-hours commute. In a way he's right. In his country, that means not cancelling HS2. It's not his personal fault. And him changing a car to EV won't change much, aside from putting one more car on the market.

Again, my point is, it's not science that is pushing EVs, it's capitalism. Buy an EV!1!!! Buy buy buy!11! ThEy ArE GoNnA SaVe ThE PlAnEt!

No need for policy changes. All we need to do collectively is ban plastic straws, drive EVs, recycle, and those that are not doing this will be blamed!

https://www.abc27.com/news/environment/keeping-old-cars-longer-can-help-the-environment-more-than-buying-new-electric-cars-study-finds/

https://www.cargurus.co.uk/Cars/articles/whats-greener-used-car-or-new-ev

https://mycarheaven.com/2023/07/keeping-your-old-petrol-car-may-be-better-than-buying-an-ev/

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Uhh isn’t progressing to electric cars… science progressing to help solve the issue? What a strange train of thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Substitute religion out for technology and this is still meaningful

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

No, its more like corporations moving to capitalize on peoples desire to affect change.

They help, but they don't solve the issue. They're a bandage for a gaping chest wound. It'll staunch the bleeding... a little, but it won't heal it.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know someone who has a similar outlook (climate change is real but science will solve it, so we don't need to change anything). Basically anything science produces toward that end they will move the goalpost and say it's not worth pursuing because science will fix it.

It is essentially their way of making climate change denialism seem reasonable and open-minded. I think if somebody came up with a miracle device to magically reverse everything, they'd complain it's too costly at any price.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is essentially their way of making climate change denialism seem reasonable and open-minded. I think if somebody came up with a miracle device to magically reverse everything, they’d complain it’s too costly at any price.

Yup. When/if we do find a way to dial back global warming, billionaires will be screaming for us to not use it because they've already found ways to make money off of people dying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

See: American healthcare system.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I think it was the first episode of the first season where one of his neighbors bitched him out over climate change. Really satisfying to see.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

If he’s changed wouldn’t he know what the issue was? It’s a little worrying that he hasn’t made the connection if that’s the case.

I don’t see this as a change of opinion, just a severe lack of understanding as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Idk, to me it seems like he's changed his opinion on the cause but not yet realized the effects

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s probably just promo for the next season of clarksons farm where he’ll plant a bunch of milkweed in the field that had the poor mustard harvest last year.

Jeremy does at least try to be somewhat environmentally conscious with his farm. Last season he was making a big focus on responsible hunting, renewable farming (less chemicals), using non-arable spaces for small scale harvesting (forest berries and herbs as well as putting hogs in the forest instead of a field), and utilizing the most of the space we have(growing mushrooms in an abandoned bomb bunker instead of building something new)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I feel like this is the sort of conservation that conservatives should be all about. Rather than conserving wealth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Change is rarely immediate or miraculous. He's moved a little, hopefully he continues on that path.

I won't hold my breath, but I won't refuse to accept that change has occurred. Slight though it may be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it possible a tweet doesn't contain the entirety of his thoughts on the subject?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Plenty more characters available, could have made himself not seem so clueless or oblivious to what he’s done and did or even for the future.

Climate change is serious, would work instead of something is affoot for example.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You are probably right. Or maybe he just wants to create a discussion

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, about his show, and what a good guy he now is.. And look, it worked!

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