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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Wikipedia link hopping. Other sources may not be reliable at all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Read. Write. Execute. RWX. I'm going to piss some people off. Here goes: you are wasting your time if you watch videos. At all. A video moves at the pace it plays. It is linear. You can't jump around easily. Reading? You can jump wherever you need immediately. You can have multiple sources at once. If you use a book, yes a physical book, you learn where things are and jump right to them. Read

Write down a paraphrased version of what you read. Do not copy. Include references so you can return to source if needed. Note taking is a skill. Your notes should be organized in a way you can skim what you wrote as easily as the sources themselves.

Execute. You don't learn anything unless you do it. I've had too many students who watch Khan Academy, and think they understand it when they haven't done it. They don't score well on exams. Not my fault. I told them they have to do it to understand it.

RWX. I await the flame war I just started with the video people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It might depend from person to person? I agree with you, tho. That's also my preferred method.

However, if the stuff you're reading is fairly dense and not that well organized, you're gonna have a harder time than watching a well written educational video or lecture and taking notes along the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can see where you are coming from, but that is a skill in and of itself. Go far enough into any technical field and you reach that boundary. Especially if you do research.

It's this kind of thing that develops into imposter syndrome. You've gotten this far doing things this way, and it's always worked. You are told you are smart. Fixed mind set. Maybe you aren't that smart at all. It effects your mental health dramatically. I've literally seen it hundreds of times.

But I do get it. Students are expected to perform at a high level. That approach is expedient and it works well to get everything done.

I recognize things are different than they were 'back in my day', but I was a C student. I did the bare minimum, except for the subjects I cared about. Those I was exemplary.

Now 'kids these days will' say "no that's bullshit. It doesn't work anymore'. That I can tell you isn't true. I have those students. You just need to figure out how to get around the artificial red tape that keeps you from focussing entirely on what you want.

(Sorry for sp. I haven't installed spell check on this phone)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Escalate. Start with early digestible low quality sources (AI chat bots, short YouTube videos, old Reddit threads, etc.) to build a general familiarity with the subject matter space.

Once you grasp the basic vocabulary and concepts, you know well enough what questions to ask to find more nuanced discussions and the right Wikipedia rabbit holes.

If you need more comprehensive understanding than that, use your newfound familiarity to start skimming primary sources.

Once you get more involved than deep dives into primary sources, you start blurring the lines of developing a new area of relative expertise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Wikipedia>references>libgen

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same way I’d inform myself on topics that are my field of expertise: reading, talking to experts, doing my own experiments and exploration, writing about it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I prefer to make unfounded comments to tired experts and note their answers, whilst spamming them with severe negative feedback to the point that they develop other interests out of exhaustion.... leaving me the new expert in the field!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Wikipedia rabbit holes every time lol.

I am fascinated by medical stuff, especially conditions I have and similar conditions. Spent like 2 weeks reading about so many kinds of diseases.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

My first stop is always Wikipedia. The rest of the internet is a minefield.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's what a forum is for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'd usually start with easily digestible content like YouTube videos or ChatGPT. At this point, I'm not too concerned about the correctness of the information. It mainly gives me vocabulary that I can then look up for further reading along with the perspective of one or two individuals. That might be all I care about, and if so, I'd stop there and go on with my day. If I want to dive deeper, I'll look up textbooks and papers on the topic, or any other relevant primary sources. Basically do a light literature review.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Wikipedia and books, depending on the subject matter and my degree of interest. For example, I've been reading historical research books because I love history. If it was something about the moon, it'd be Wikipedia and good enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

You have to set a goal of what you want to understand and why you want to understand it, then read accordingly. If your goal is to know the usual number of eggs laid by a bird because you are trying to identify one from its nest in your yard, sure just read some Wikipedia and maybe read its sources. If you need to understand a broad topic in the social sciences in order to do your job or organize politically, well sucks yo be you, you need to spend months to years getting a handle on the various schools of thought and approaching them humbly and critically, reading many books.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I read everything I can find about it, especially if its people arguing thoughtfully, or sharing their advice/experience, or if its about the history of the topic. I get kind of obsessive about researching things so I usually come at a topic from a lot of directions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I watch videos and read articles and use LLMs to give me the key points to grasp the basics. Then build upon that knowledge with more focused learning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I do this plus follow competent people in those fields on Mastodon/reddit/etc for current news relevant to practitioners in the field

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Don't watch or listen....READ!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do we have teachers then? Listening and watching is absolutely a valid strategy of learning. You just need to make sure that the speakers are trustworthy on the subject.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Probably meant don't rely on youtube, (as people produce fake info) while text books are rypically vetted, except in USA where Texas writes the curriculum supporting oil and gas and denying clinate change--and the other states purchase the Texas curriculum

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Idk man. YouTube tutorials are pretty helpful. Especially when I was studying electricity. Those Indian dudes are geniuses

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Um…read?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Isaac Asimov wrote books on a wide range of topics.

Start with him

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