A bit torn on this, tbh. 'Cause on the one hand, good - fuck that guy. He's trash and he deserves to be thrown out for being trash. But on the other hand, as far as I'm aware, none of those priests that fucked children were excommunicated. So according to the head of the catholic church, slagging off the pope is worse than fucking children? Seems like a weird set of priorities.
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Not to defend the pope and his lack of prosecution of these pedophiles, but you have to remember that the rule of a leader is never absolute. A leader still has to answer to either the lay people, the nobles/elites, or both. Or else a leader will have to face a rebellion in some form or another. That being said, the problem is that Pope Francis has to go against a significant number of pedophiles and other ultraconservative priests. The Vatican is a hotbed of political intrigue as much as in the royal courts, congress or parliaments. There has been a talk of conservative discontent on Pope Francis for many years now; many of whom adore the pope's more conservative predecessor, Benedict XVI. I mean, how else would a pope get elected by its own elites other than to also engage with politics? It's not different to your everyday office politics or government.
The first priest that the PR Pope excommunicated, in 2013, earned it by speaking out for women to be ordained (he also supported marriage equality, but the ordaining women thing seems to be the main issue).
In Melbourne. The same city where George Pell molested children and protected other molesters. George Pell, a child who the Pope appointed to the Council of Cardinal Advisers.
Child molestation isn't a lesser sin to the church. It's a non-sin.
I mean, where in the Bible does it say you can't rape children? The bible doesn't condemn rape of adults or children. It's not a sin to rape anyone at all.
The bit that western xtians like to say means don't do gay sex could be better translated to "don't fuck your apprentices"
But king James was fucking his advisors, who were more than twice his age, while they were translating the bible into English so they took some creative liberties
"The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion."
We go high, they go low. Taking the moral high ground against these people just end us losing the battle.
So according to the head of the catholic church, slagging off the pope is worse than fucking children?
One is just cause for excommunication according to the rules. Excommunication is a very specific punishment for very specific religious things.
Stealing communion wine could technically earn you an excommunication depending on how it was done and what was done with the wine.
The rules behind excommunication are practically ancient at this point but they weren't there to prevent all sins, just be punishment for specific things that were threatening to the absolute shitshow that the organization itself was a long ass time ago.
The fact that it's still a shitshow as an organization, albeit a slightly different KIND of shitshow has no bearing on this situation in particular.
Let's be fair, though. All kiddy diddlers are in the depths of iniquity and should have long since been addressed under what's said in scripture and held to account on that regardless of any talk of excommunication.
Clergy should have been removed for choosing to actively live in sin and then punished according to the law.
The important part is to be loyal. Same as when Elizabeth I broke with Rome the people punished for being chatolic was not charged with heresy, but treason
You'd think the pedos would stick together
Catholics are all cannibals. Communion bread is people!
It's not people, it's only one person!
There's a lot of him to go around though.
You know. If I was a billionaire… I’d buy the company that makes the wafers and rename it “Soylent Green”.
I wonder how long it would take for people to figure it out.
I will not, duck will not! I will not try your Green Christ, no man.
I think that might infringe on Soylent's trademark.
Soylent was named for the movie, and given that it’s very unlikely that people would naturally confuse the products… and also the idiots at Soylent would probably find the humor in it (I mean they did name their company after it, too,)
I think it’ll be alright. Maybe, if I were hypothetically rich I’d buy them too.
Has he tried claiming that he hasn't been excommunicated and storming the Vatican?
That is planned for next January.
Not too often you see the nuthatches shaking up the status quo.
Vigano thereafter made increasingly baroque attacks on Francis while also drifting into conspiracy theories, backing bogus claims about COVID vaccines and making proclamations about the evils of the “deep state.” This week, he shared an X post from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in which the MAGA congresswoman asserted: “The Covid vaccines are killing people.”
Homey dropped off the deep end and never came back, lol. Didn't his parents ever tell him, "Don't believe everything that you see on the internet."?
Imagine being a big deal in the Catholic Church and complaining about the Deep State.
I mean his whole job is to get other people to believe there's an invisible dude in the sky ready to smite me if he sees me masturbate. This is just par for the course for him :>
Quit making that face when you masturbate and maybe he won't.....you know the face I'm talking about.
I'm turning Japanese Oh yes I'm turning Japanese I really think so
He’s (well he was) an archbishop. Homes has believed in crazy things people just made up and treated as real for a super long time.
Transubstantiation. Yo.
Archbishop? How do those move again?
It's the same as a normal bishop. They use arch btw.
Remind me again, are those the pieces with the funny hats?
Depends on what you mean by funny. I think those guys wearing horse masks are out there.
Expelling the cardinal is likely to increase tensions between Francis and conservative American Catholics, a group he as described as having “a very, strong, organized, reactionary attitude,” and whom he accused in 2023 of replacing faith with “ideologies.”
That’s a great summation of the problem with the religious right in this country.
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