this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2024
133 points (90.3% liked)

News

23301 readers
3398 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 39 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

The part he hasn’t said yet is that he wants Mexico to pay for that, too. So there’s his out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I seem to recall like 20 years ago even there was an issue in that state colleges make more from out of state students so are sorta incentivized to have more of them. I assume this is to pump up fake colleges like a reboot of trump university

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Is... is this reverse Fetterman? Did Trump have a stroke and become a democrat?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Dude I don’t think even the democrats would float this sort of plan. It’s one of those weird moments between planning the three stooges reich where he just glomms onto some idea that is actually super progressive without knowing it. Ultimately trump is apolitical personally I think—he acts based on narcissistic self interest, which is why it’s possible for weird shit like this to happen. He also just takes notes from whatever whackos are around that day, so you can be sure that any actual good or progressive ideas will get removed from the platform by one of the far right grifters he has in perpetual orbit, but still amusing to see.

The democrats would say they wanted to do this, then complain they’re not allowed to, and then produce a plan that provides green cards to foreign grads if they agree to live in an underserved neighborhood for 5 years, have a specific blood type, and complete a post-secondary degree within 5 years with the intention of working in green energy development after. Like some caveated-to-hell means tested crap that lets them say they tried, while effectively making it near-impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

West would genuinely break me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We all know that the hate for Mexico is nonsense. They aren't coming over the border and stealing highly coveted jobs. The jobs that have actually been taken by immigrants are largely middle class jobs that require degrees, things like IT and medicine.

In part, this has been fine. It drives the salaries down a bit because they're willing to accept less to move to the country and even the lower salary is still much more than they would make at home. Companies win because there weren't enough qualified people to go around for a while, so immigration closes the gaps.

This is pure conservatism though. Allow foreigners to come study here in unlimited numbers, then let them stay to take middle class jobs at lower salaries in these non-union industries. It's like outsourcing but everyone is in the same time zone and they won't resist your return-to-office mandate.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The upside of having no real stances is you can throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks towards your benefit.

Also an upside of never implementing what you promised it doesn't matter what you said last.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I actually love this idea. Still not gonna vote for the guy, but solid idea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

[off topic]

Right after absolutely nothing happened at Tianinmen Square 06/04/1989 someone suggested that all Chinese students in the US be given Green Cards.

Guess who opposed that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You truly can never predict what he will say next.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Pfft, cant wait for democrats to pivot harder into anti-immigrant policy in response.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Don’t judge them by what they say. Judge them by what they do/did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I wonder what scam he has in mind to gain money or power through this, at the expense of everyone else in the country.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I 10,000% guarantee this would not be enacted by a Trump presidency. Worst, if some for of it was put forward it would have specific conditions limiting which country of origin this would apply to (surprise surprise: white ones).

Please don't get lured by the broken clock phenomenon...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

He'll never do it. He'll likely fight anyone who does. The most shameless man in history dosen't care about fighting against his own promises.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

It would be only those countries that give trump money. Guaranteed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea why the USA spends money on training international students until they get their PhD and then doesn't automatically give them permanent residency. One guy I know came from Iran to get his physics PhD and although he has managed to stay in the USA with a work visa, by default the USA would have sent him back to Iran!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Foreign students pay full tuition, with no state contribution. Lots of universities have increased foreign admissions specifically to address declining state allocations. Science grad schools, where grants pay the student's tuition & stipend are a different question, but a lot of funding mechanisms, including some US gov't, bar foreign nationals.

The whole pool of foreign students are great, though: top students in their home country, generally from families wealthy in their home country, highly motivated & ambitious. Many/most of them seek college in the US hoping it will be a stepping stone to employment and permanent residence. I can understand why even a xenophobe like Trump would make an exception for students.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Let me guess that they have to use the new TRUMP student loan ~~scheme~~ company to pay for the degree.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look who's a pro-immigrant librul everybody

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

More like anti labour parasite

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said that graduates would be screened “to exclude all communists, radical Islamists, Hamas supporters, America haters and public charges.”

Communists? 🎶 One of these things is not like the others 🎶

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Doesn't matter, that just means "we'll exclude all non-white, non-Christian Europeans who have ever said anything remotely critical of Donald Trump in their time on the internet."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

America haters

These people also like to say that Democrats and progressives hate America.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Universidad Latina de Mexico y tejas

[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is just a ploy to get elected. The republican platform says none of this.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last time, they avoided having the platform contradict Trump by not adopting a platform. I expect this time to be no different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately it's much scarier than that. Google Project 2025 if you're not already familiar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I really can't stand him but that is a good idea. Doubt its his tho.

AAaand then it's not a good idea:

From the article:

graduates would be screened “to exclude all communists, radical Islamists, Hamas supporters, America haters and public >charges.”

“He believes, only after such vetting has taken place, we ought to keep the most skilled graduates who can make significant >contributions to America. This would only apply to the most thoroughly vetted college graduates who would never undercut >American wages or workers,” Leavitt said in a statement to CNN.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I despise Trump with every fiber of my being but I agree with the spirit of this. We need to make it easier for legal immigrants. I would be highly suspicious of a Trump administration's implementation of this policy, though. He makes everything about him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is a pretty classic case of "heartbreaking, the worst person you know just made a great point"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Well said. I think part of it is, he really knows how to tap into some populist things. I mean, who doesn't want more jobs? And so on.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Not a bad idea if you limited it to properly accredited schools. I'll put this in the "buy Greenland" category of Trump ideas, oddly appealing.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Easy enough to setup a fake college and funnel immigrants through it, ask Trump he did it for years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He probably forgot it shut down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

He probably forgot it ~~shut down~~ existed.