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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

Well, everyone say hello to the $1000+ PlayStation 6.

What're you going to do, buy an Xbox? Build a PC with a GPU alone that costs almost the same?

No Xbox means Sony gains a monopoly on the console market. Unless Nintendo decides to actually compete with regular hardware again, which they won't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

What are you talking about you can buy a PC for less than the price of a PS5 and it will be better than the PS5. The advantage of gaming consoles has always been that it's plug and play. You just turn it on and there you go.

Sony aren't going to create a revolutionary GPU that's only available in the PS6. They might try and charge $1,000 for it but they will always be other options. Where do you think they get their components from? They don't have their own fab.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

With the rise of game streaming services like Xbox Cloud Gaming and Amazon Luna I predict that the console market is basically over. I honestly don’t expect Microsoft to release another console and if Sony does it’s almost certain to be the last. Nintendo may stick with it longer since they just released the Switch2 but they seem to be prepping for it with the digital key thing.

It sucks for the players but it makes fiscal sense for the Publishers and Console Makers (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo) if there is an industry wide pivot to game streaming where players are required to pay every month. I know that some games don’t lend themselves well to this, yet, but it’s blatantly obvious (at least to me) that this is where the industry is headed.

We’ve already reached the end of “Console Exclusive” games and I think what comes next is “Streaming Platform Exclusive” games. I think what comes after that is the Publishers establishing their own Streaming Platforms for their own games.

This is precisely what has happened with the rest of the entertainment industry and there’s no reason I can see for gaming, which is a subset of that same industry, to do anything else now that the streaming technology exists.

Steam and GOG will end up pushed out of the market or they will also become Streaming Platforms, just ones that cater to a different set of players.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I can't see streaming games being anything other than a niche market. It puts the burden onto the streamer, in order to be competitive they look after constantly be upgrading their offering, they will have to have multiple server centres around the world, they will always be beholden to crappy ISPs who just don't upgrade their infrastructure.

With local hardware you shortcut all of that, upgrading of your hardware is done by the user so they're not going to complain if it's out of date, you don't have to have any server centres, and the ISP issues either don't matter for single player games that were massively reduced for multiplayer games, now they don't actually have to send video over the connection. .

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Streaming has plateaued, and I don't see anyone overcoming that plateau. The console market is coming to an end, but the transition is to PC gaming, not streaming, and we can measure that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure they can but I think they also see the growth in the PC gaming industry as a potential opportunity to capitalize with "XBOX OS".

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Makes sense honestly. I am incredibly underwhelmed with my series x.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I just assumed they hired the same person that was previously in charge of naming Street Fighter games from Capcom. I was sure the next Xbox would be named something like Xbox X 360 Series X Alpha Championship Edition with Hyper Fighting

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Super Xbox X 360 Series X Alpha Championship Edition with Hyper Fighting EX Plus Turbo & Knuckles

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That'd still be better than Xbox S, Xbox Series X, Xbox One S

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

F tier click bait. Literally nothing informative was said in here.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Part of the problem might be that I literally have no idea what their current console is called? Whoever was in charge of naming the last threeish xbox consoles should be fired out of a cannon

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft suck at naming things in general. It's a problem across every single branch of the business, people keep calling Office 365 0365 because Microsoft insists on calling it O365 and people think that's a zero. Also the name makes no sense anyway, why not call it Microsoft Office Online?

Then we have Microsoft Azure, except they renamed that to Entra despite the fact that both names are stupid. Then of course there is the entirety of the Windows OS lineup.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (11 children)

They had all that free marketting from people assuming the third one would be the 720 and they ditched it in favor of calling it the Xbox One, which everyone was already using for the name of the first Xbox. Still baffled by that one.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Yeah, totally agree on this. If you put the last two names in front of me and asked which was newer, I’d have no idea. The new one has multiple versions too so it makes it more confusing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, after the 360 they had XXXbox sitting right there and they acted like they were too good for it. Prudes.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Waiting for xsx to go on clearance

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

"There is literally no reason to buy this handheld," Fryer opined of the ROG Xbox Ally. "

You want access to games or services that are either better or only available on Windows without having to deal with the desktop Windows interface. That is literally the reason to buy it. Game Pass and popular live services can woo plenty of people over.

Gotta say, from the few times I've come across her channel, she seems like a shit-stirrer, and right wing rage baiters seem to love quoting her.

But what is the long-term plan?

To transition to a world where "Xbox" is the brand slapped across Microsoft's Windows gaming endeavors and they mostly serve as a Game Pass purveyor and the largest third party publisher by market cap.

Where are the new hits?

This one is really surprising as a question, because if you could will hits into existence, everyone would do it, but for a publisher of their size, they're doing more in recent years to create new franchises than most, even if they then lay off the team behind Hi-Fi Rush. South of Midnight came out this year; Outer Worlds 2, Avowed, and Grounded all came out of Obsidian as well as the much smaller Pentiment; and Clockwork Revolution got a sizable demo on display just this summer.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Wait I thought stock buybacks and hollowing out all our dedicated talent didn't have consequences?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have you considered firing half the workforce and pushing AI harder? I think that might fix it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, re-release Tay as a sex chatbot, got it, on it!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The problem at this point is not so much that they don't have games - they have released plenty in the past few years and most have been received positively.

The problem is that they released those games too late, and by that point, the ship had already sailed. After a streak of disappointing years with the XOne, they needed strong titles to pair up with XSeries. Instead, they released jack shit for an entire year, and after that the disappointment just grew further with the likes of Halo Infinite, Starfield and the weird vampire game nobody asked for.

By that point, everyone already got themselves a PS5, a Switch, a gaming PC or a handheld device. Xbox needed to show their fans they believed in their mission and were capable of delivering strong titles on their platform, but everyone saw their releases and said "Meh".

The strong titles eventually came, but by that point they had already decided to port them over to the competition to offset the cost, and everyone saw the writing was on the wall for the platform.

Spencer can go on stage spewing whatever bullshit he wants, but nobody outside of the most diehard Xbox fans believe that the platform has a future - and it's very hard to convince people to invest on your platform when it's not certain how many more years it will be supported, and whether your store will remain accessible or shut down a few years down the line.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The PS5 killed Xbox for me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

The PS5 killed console gaming for me. Scalpers selling it for 1200 bucks sealed the deal for me to get a PC.

The PS4 killed Xbox for me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know people hate the idea of console exclusivity, but without it, that's what really killed the Xbox for me. I've got a gaming PC and a PS5 (not Pro), and I could afford an Xbox Series X if I really wanted to. I simply don't know of any games on the platform that I want and can't get somewhere else.

And that's not coming from a reflexive Microsoft hater. I had an OG Xbox (and loved the old Duke controller), 360, and One S. I just barely played the latter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

It's too expensive to make those kinds of exclusives anymore, which means they take longer to make, which means there are fewer of them. Sony can't make enough PlayStation exclusives to justify me buying a PlayStation anymore, so I don't buy one, so they put them on PC too, so there's even less reason for me to have a PlayStation. Console exclusives are on their way out of fashion.

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Was funny when they said they needed more original games like Hi Fi rush after firing the people that made Hi Fi rush.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

technicallythetruth

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

"And here's the thing — maybe it will work," she added. "Xbox has a deep portfolio. [Oblivion Remastered] was obviously a huge success, and they can continue to outsource that work to external companies and make a lot of money releasing their older games — older games from an era when Xbox knew how to build them."

Shots fired. Despite Microsoft constantly claiming Xbox is here to stay and they're working on the next console, it's very clear they're trying to transition off hardware back into Windows so they don't lose that too since Linux is dominating the handheld market. Even if they do make a new console, theyll put as much effort into it as the Xbox One.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft is trying to make Xbox into Windows: Where 3rd parties make the hardware and then license the platform from Microsoft. It's a vastly more profitable model. Especially if they get all those end users signed up for a subscription service.

The problem is that the world thinks of "Xbox" as a console (and a specific kind of controller). To pull this off Microsoft is going to have to re-brand Xbox entirely by making people think of it more like a game-specific app store that runs on Windows and special handheld hardware. It won't be easy.

There's a bigger problem with this plan though: No real coordination with the Windows OS team. Windows on handhelds sucks. The past twenty fucking years of Windows development has been almost entirely focused on improving enterprise features with very little attention paid to end users or gaming.

Growth in Windows gaming has come despite Microsoft's investments. Not because of them. In fact, I'd argue that if it weren't for Steam, Windows—as a gaming platform—would be a fraction of what it is today.

Don't get me wrong, though! I love this new Xbox roadmap! Windows gaming has been holding back Linux desktop adoption for far too long. The latest benchmarks that show games on SteamOS vastly outperforming the new Xbox-branded handhelds pretty clearly demonstrates all that bashing of Windows by Linux nerds was deeply accurate.

It turns out that Linux on the desktop really is superior! 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the xbone was the last console I bought. Soured the pot so bad on what I enjoyed about console gaming. I already had a PC, but still enjoyed the couch casual sessions that seemingly don't exist, and haven't for over a decade

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I’ve just had my gaming PC hooked up to my living room TV for the last several years. I have a lower power desktop on my room for anything that isn’t gaming. I can’t imagine buying one of the modern consoles just for their limitations alone.

Plus I just wait a few years and 95% of the explained make their way to PC anyway.

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