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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Oh sure. Not all of them, certainly, but a good number of friends and I will hug to say hello/goodbye. Some of those guys prefer the handshake-bro-hug variety, others go in for the full bear hug. A handful of them, my oldest friends, are comfortable with cuddling, snuggling, or other non-hug physical contact so that'll happen on the occasions we get to see each other.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I can't seem to shake off the loud "It's Gay" inside my head when something like that happens. Now if it's a kid or a senior at work patting me, sure no problem. Occasional hugs upon meeting friends after a while, handshakes etc are fine. Anything else is too awkward for me

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I hug my guy friends when I haven't seen them in a while (e.g. my friends who live far away). Snuggling is super weird, and I don't know of any guys who have done that. Feels like if I did, my wife would not be very happy. Affectionate fighting seems just over the top. Seems like something limited to children and movies.

I think the amount of physical affection I get from other men is fine. Don't really need more

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

With some, yea. Most are uncomfortable but I have a handful of dear friends who are okay with it, even find safety in it I believe. That's certainly my takeaway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Hugging, yeah. My joints(knees, shoulders, back) are too fucked for what play wrestling is between guys, I forget that when I see my brother after a while but I get reminded right quick. No snuggling, but I'm also not usually on a couch when we hang, still probably not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Generally no, probably because many males when they end up in physicality make it some kind of dominance thing (playfully violence that's just a little too much, "higher position" touches like hand on top of shoulder or physically leading other people and even the good old "measuring somebody one the firmeness of their handshake"). It's not casual and friendly when there's measuring and testing of others involved.

Outside close family, the only environment I've been in were things like hugs were normal was the Theatre world.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I'm not physically affectionate with anyone. I hate to be touched, especially by men.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

A hug is a standard greeting between well-acquainted men in Sweden, so yeah. I hug my friends and family.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was just watching Love Island (don’t judge) and noticed two of the guys who are very good friends were sitting with their legs sort of crossed together. Like the way girls who are close friends would. It stuck out because you don’t really see that much but I was like hey that’s pretty cool, kinda more masculine (at least from my girl perspective) than guys that are all afraid to touch each other

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I was just watching Love Island (don’t judge)

Have they gotten to the big reveal that it's actually a peninsula yet?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the friend group. My hiking friend group (about an even split of male/female) all hug. It started off as a joke, then stuck. Other groups, nope. Though, other groups have all fizzled out for me, mainly due to moving or my poor engagement as life moved on.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have a few friends that are huggers. I will admit it was odd at first, but I don't mind them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yes. And yes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Snuggling? Uh, that's a hard no. I can't imagine that. I'd be extremely uncomfortable.

Hugging? Yup, lots of hugging in my friends and family.

I don't wish for more physical affection among males, seems good as is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No, I don't usually go physically affectionate with them, male, female, or whatever. I reserve that to close family; unless there is some special situation of course, like loss, or celebration, or something.

And honestly, I don't miss it at all. I get enough affection at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

No and no. Good handshake and quick 1 handed hug is all I want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do more than playfully wrestle with my friends. As I do BJJ. I actively try to choke them out or try to break their limbs or try to tear their ligaments apart. It's very fun for all. Though while it's open to anyone I do get most people wouldn't enjoy it. It's personally physical to the extreme since on top of the close physical contact you're also sweating all over each other to the point sweat dripping in your eyes or mouth will statistically happen at least once.

Honestly if you feel like you miss playful fighting with friends, do a trial class of it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Very poor phrasing at the start there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess that's just the intentional innuendo I use about it. If you look up bjj memes (or Craig Jones) you'll find most people preempt the jokes insecure people might make about dressing up in lycra and wrestling with other sweaty men in a padded room.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Happy cake day!

My friends take about stabbing each other, because we do HEMA. Sometimes slight grappling gets involved. Much less physically...intimate, but still very open to verbal inuendo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Cool! Yeah, they also have Ringen which also can be nice! I tried sword fighting a couple of times but I don't like the competition form of it (also I'm bad at it).

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

Yeah I hug my friends most times we see each other and fight them very rarely. Most of my friends and me do not want to be cuddled but there's always that one friend who tries to be as gay as humanly possible and eventually you just accept that he's going to invade your space and be gay. For my tier 1 friends social stigma does not exist. For tier 2 it exists but can be broken and for tier 3 every interaction exists firmly within the socially acceptable boundaries and I would be extremely uncomfortable if one of them hugged or hit me with some gayshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

@Wahots
I wish it was more acceptable (except snuggling, that's a bit much too intimate)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Hugging as a hi and bye, yes. It is okay in my country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While I don't really care if it's socially acceptable or not I found it far too awkward to hug other people for the longest time, even close friends. I have opened up to it more in the last few years but I still don't just hug someone without asking their consent first.

If I like someone, hugging them just feels great.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I dislike touching people or being touched. Not that I have a phobia is suffer from, I just don't like it and try to avoid it when possible. So no, I am not physically affectionate with other friends (male or female alike).

Before there was a pandemic, touching people for welcome or goodbye was common (i.e "shaking hands"). But fortunately this is no longer the case. There are still some disrespectful and non-considerate persons around who want to touch you just to say hello, but they're in the minority.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I don't do that with anybody, normally. People of all genders will sometimes give you a hug here if it's been a while or if they're happy to see you. Cheek kissing is mostly a women thing, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yup, it depends on the person but at least in my life many male friends are physically affectionate. Admittedly some of these are affectionate via general sparring, which started in our teens and never went away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hugging and play fighting, sure, but can't say I've snuggled with the lads (or girl friends either for that matter) - feels more intimate, like something you'd do with a loved one (or a pet).

Drunk me might lean a bit more towards leaning or pushing against the lads, but that's always playful and jokesy rather than sincere as your post implies

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Somewhat. Hugging yes, snuggling no, playful wrestling when certain friends are particularly drunk.

Yes, I do wish it was more socially acceptable

Frodo and Sam should be fucking role models, especially the book versions who were even more deeply close than the films.

I mean, honestly, for fantasy, the entire Lord of the Rings series is replete with strong men expressing emotion in healthy ways to deal with the horrors of what they were facing. They sing deeply loving songs for fallen comrades, notably Boromir even after he makes a grave mistake, already forgiven, while giving him the best of funerals they can (In their song for Boromir, Aragorn even calls Boromir beautiful[^1]). They cry for one another and feel great distress at the suffering of those in their fellowship. They carry each others' burdens up to Sam literally carrying Frodo up Mount Doom. Anyway, they weren't unwilling to show physical affection or speak highly of another's beauty.

[^1]: "His head so proud, his face so fair, his limbs they laid to rest," In every context of Toklein using the word "fair" in LOTR, it has been taken to mean "beautiful."

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep, a greeting hug when you meet a friend is very common here. Sometimes it is a handshake with pat on the shoulder, or just a handshake.

Don't really think about it much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Guy, that's the classic bro hug, in and out. This guy is talking about snuggling lol.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm a big hugger. I wish that there was more affection between men, I often worry I'm making other men uncomfortable and then in turn I get uncomfortable about it. The whole thing makes me far more stressed than I wish it did honestly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's one guy in my little group of friends who is an unapologetic hugger, even though the rest of us don't really hug he'll always hug everyone goodbye. I'd say it's possible some guys don't enjoy it, but I actually really appreciate it about him, it's nice getting a hug and sometimes I really need one.

For anyone who really doesn't like it they can always offer their hand first, but on behalf of all the guys who need a little affection from their buds sometimes I wanna say thanks for being there for the friends who need it. Even if they never say so I'm sure some of them appreciate it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Usually hugging for saying hi or bye, just like with women.

Beyond that, not really? But then I'm not a very physically affectionate person with anyone, independent of gender. Except Pepper - my cat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I started going to raves shortly after high school in the late 90s. The culture is all about love. I hug all of my friends (male or female) when I see them. I tell them as often as possible that I love them too.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (4 children)

No, it's not socially acceptable. Yes, I wish it were. I don't know if I'd go for full on snuggling but I come from a physically affectionate family and in general wish people were more comfortable with that kind of thing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I mentioned in my other reply that my hiking group hugs when we meet, which started as a joke when the women did, then stuck. Now, when someone new joins you can feel the emotion of missing out when they arrive, and the acceptance when it happens as they leave.

Next time a mixed gender group meets, and the women hug the women and men, etc, start a ridiculous laugh and pretend to hug one of the dudes. If he does, you may have started a trend.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. I come from a family that wasn't very physically affectionate, and I hug most of my friends every time I see them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I go for the hug when I see friends I haven't seen in a long time, or when I'm parting ways with someone I know I won't see for a while. But it's definitely not a regular occurrence

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I'm becoming more comfortable with shoulder pats n shit, hugs too. Wrestling isn't my jam anymore. Gimme a dagorhir sword, or some other foam sword and let's have a no-holds-barred swashbuckle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

An occasional hug if we are drunk enough, and I don't want anything more than that.

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