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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Finally, ASMR phone calls.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All I want is some kind of audio processing so people can’t tell I’m on the toilet.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

For years we invested in better microphones and noise canceling to CLEARLY hear the closest / primary speaker and remove all other noise and distractions.

Now introducing, car noise. Get immerses with the kids fighting in the back seat in surround sound..

No important conference call is complete without you providing your weekly update while your dog licks his balls on the way to the vet for everyone to hear.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

So instead of playing bad music, I can get ASMR while I'm on hold with my bank?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If it improves video calls and regular calls, why not? I can definitely see room for improvement in audio quality when calling and would be happy to have a better experience.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

At least in the United States, when you call somebody on the same carrier as you, you get that HD quality thing, and that improves the call quality a bunch versus the standard 8KB phone call. However, even still, when you call somebody on another carrier, you generally don't get that high quality call. So it would be nice to get those high quality calls between carriers for everybody before moving on.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Lol yeah everyone shitting on stereo is shooting in the wrong direction - companies suck, stereo or surround sound doesn't. Not saying it's a super high priority for me, but another channel of audio isn't going to use much bandwidth, we already listen to streaming music in stereo all the time.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Can't wait to experience the tech support call center scams in Dolby Atmos.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We're ^calling^ about ~your~ cars ^extended^ ^warranty^

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

In THX certified 7.2.1 surround straight out of Bangalore.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Nokia implemented stereo sound? Wow, welcome to 1881.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of people making calls are still going to have only one speaker, so it'll still get downmixed to mono. Even if your phone has two, and you're not holding it next to one ear, they're still going to be so close together as to effectively be one point source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Meanwhile, the vast majority of people making calls are still going to have only one speaker, so it'll still get downmixed to mono. Even if your phone has two, and you're not holding it next to one ear, they're still going to be so close together as to effectively be one point source.

No, lots of (probably most) phones and other devices has stereo speakers.

Either way headphones are most often used for this (you know like the thumbnail)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

If only they had developed some kind of companion technology that connected to the phone and directed separate audio channels to each of your ears. Eh, such a specialized device could never gain widespread adoption if stereo phone calls were the only practical use case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

This was true for TVs until it wasn't.

Edit: apparently some young whippersnappers don't know TVs used to be mono before they were stereo, and now some TVs even have spatial sound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

You think we haul 30" phones around in the foreseeable future?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

No, clearly we walk around with full 5.1 surround sound speakers on poles.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

i mean, people have innovated in the areas they care already.

no one really cares that much about audio on phone calls. as long as they're understandable.

people added video because it adds to the communication. spatial audio will not. it will only become common if one or two of these mega corps decide to shoehorn it into ever device. not because people actually want it or care.

might be a lucrative patent if we ever get holograms though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i mean, people have innovated in the areas they care already

so you are saying that all the innovation and research should be stopped, because if we care about any specific problem, it is already solved, and if it isn't, it is proof we don't care? 😆

that... is not how it works.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (11 children)

oh look, a feature literally no one asked for or needs.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (7 children)

90% of the features in your daily life started as something no one asked for or needed. I remember people saying this about touch screens.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In some applications, people still say that about touch screens and they are not wrong.

Spatial Audio can be cool. In this application? I’m unconvinced.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago

Fucking touchscreens on cars is definitely something nobody should have access to.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not everything that will be useful has an immediately obvious benefit.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

The only benefit this has is to those who will upcharge to use it. It's pointless crap nobody asked for.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Incorrect. This will better train LLMs since they can detect distinct speakers/sounds more easily and thus applying the proper metadata tags and profile information at a more accurate clip.

All so they can deliver more ads!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I wish it was only useless:(

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It placed the call over a cellular network using the 3GPP Immersive Video and Audio Services (IVAS) codec, allowing callers to hear “sound spatially in real-time.”

The IVAS codec is part of 5G Advanced, an upcoming upgrade to 5G networks that could offer faster speeds, improved energy efficiency, more accurate cellular-based positioning, and more.

Currently, all phone calls made over a cellular network are monophonic, meaning audio is compressed into a single channel.

Spatial audio, on the other hand, makes it seem like sounds are coming from different directions as they’re delivered through multiple channels.

The IVAS codec could enable spatial audio in a “vast majority” of smartphones with at least two microphones, Nokia tells Reuters.

But, as pointed out by Reuters, we likely won’t see the more immersive audio and video calls on our cellular networks for a few more years.


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