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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can't figure out why the fact that she's a mom is the first thing in the headline.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

I guess I'm old school, but I really don't want my daughter looking up to a prostitute or an OnlyFans woman as a role model.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Something that bugs me: why does the headline/article seem so focused on her being a mother? Lots of people have kids. Shouldn't it say teacher or woman?

Edit: she wasn't a teacher but served on an advisory schoolboard council. I didn't read the article.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sex work should not be a crime.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Society continues downhill.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Name a society that doesn't have sex work. I'll wait.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure all societies have prostitution. Just because something is widespread doesn't make it right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what's the solution? Thousands of years of making it illegal to some degree or another does not seem to work.

Or perhaps sex is deeply ingrained in the human psyche just as much as food is, and we shouldn't consider that a problem?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Murder has been there since the beginning and making it illegal doesn't seem to work. Should we just make legal? I think prostitution only plays into women being sexual objects for men.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...if you go to Pahrump, NV where prostitution is legal, those women are independent contractors who set their own prices and can turn anyone that they don't feel comfortable with serving away. Additionally, clients must use protection AND the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.

Compare that to the women who prostitute themselves illegally and are subjected to all the dangers of rape, abuse, and murder.

I used to think like you. While I was researching a paper I was writing (arguing against the legalization of prostitution mind you), I ended up at a completely different conclusion. My conclusion did not support my thesis and I wrote it that way.

Open your mind a bit, and see that legalization protects EVERYONE (except prudes I guess)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.

Wonder what the response time is on that button press? Would have thought they would employ bouncers on-site to handle that kind of thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why are you comparing sex to murder? They are not on the same level at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What even was that persons comparison. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes. How are sex and murder even slightly related? I'm sure if I was 14 again I'd say something like "they give and take life, they are two sides of the same coin" or something like that that totally misses the fucking point.

^(I'm replying to you because last time replied to one of these people directly I was botted for like a week. )

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think they would like to make an argument that only makes sense in a Christian context ("we are all sinful, and we need to control those sins until we get true salvation, including sexual desire"), but they're smart enough to know that won't fly around here. So instead, they have to come up with a contorted argument that still doesn't work, but they thought it wouldn't be so easy to dismiss out of hand. They failed, but they tried.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

‘Convicted’ prostitute? What the fuck is this phrasing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Prostitution is generally a crime and she was convicted. As opposed to an alleged prostitute, who may have only be charged or suspected of prostitution.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yea sure, but the problem is that it it villainizes her when all she was doing was sex work, which is only illegal because of puritanical religious meddling.

Sex work is work, and she’s done nothing wrong other than break a morally ambiguous, at best, law. The phrasing is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Congratulations! You now realize why calling someone a 'criminal' is a loaded statement!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I'm a convicted speeder and I think convicted prostitute should have about as much weight. But you just know some of her customers are the same ones calling for her removal because hypocrisy and moral superiority go hand in hand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A speeder? As in, someone that breaks the speed limits on roads?

No, that is worse, because when you speed you are putting other's lives at risk. I never felt at risk as a bystander from someone selling sex.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

You’re right to look down on me. My two speeding tickets in 33 years of driving reflect what a menace to society I’ve become. The carnage….

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Legalize prostitution and get rid of the stigma. It being illegal only hurts the women (mostly) in the long run. With legalization you could get rid of a lot of abuse and make it easy for these women to come forward if there is abuse. I think it would also make underage trafficking harder if prostitution was legalized.

I think we’re a long way from that, but one can hope for society.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hurting women is the point. By keeping some people's primary form of income illegal they can be superexploited, just like undocumented migrant workers. It's no coincidence that they're also similarly at risk of kidnapping, trafficking, and violence. No work insurance, no safety net, no legal protection, no rights, no dignity, and if you get caught you are the one that gets punished instead of the people who exploit you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think hurting women is the point, more like a bonus or icing on the cake.

The point is to maintain a facade that our culture is 'above' such kind of behavior, even though everyone with a brain knows it's not.

Same kind of sentiment that allows Christians/Catholics to have sex out of wedlock but still think they're 'holier than' everyone else who does the same.

It's all just hypocrisy and insecurity.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

Our culture is very much in favor of hurting women, so it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. The harm to women is far too consistent to be a coincidence.