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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

that depends on the setting you're writing.

I think it would be more interesting to instead say yes or no, and then explain why it's that way in your setting.

if yes, perhaps the law is magic in its own right, or perhaps the state is ordained by god. If the vampire is a protagonist, then perhaps the story might be interestes in exploring the necessity of due process and the consequences of not doing that.

If no, perhaps it is because the police are a corrupt institution lacking support of any higher supernatural power. Our vampire cop might feel forced to use increasing sinister methods of gaining entry to suspects homes.

The answer could even be different depending on location, and showing the difference could be very interesting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

similar question.

do vampires need visas to enter a country?

can they cross borders freely?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

if you surround the earth in a megastructure shaped like a house do all vampires on earth instantly die?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

wait

is property lines the same as a house?

can you sublet a room on your house and hide there?

can you surround a vampire with houses and he cannot escape?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Hey, I'm an amateur vampirologist. Feel free to tell me to go F myself if you disagree, but here are my thoughts.

In most media I've seen it's not the property line, it's specifically the house.

Subletting leads to an interesting conundrum that I'll have to explore more but on its face I think it checks out. I also think it's very silly and would love to see a work that explored this.

As I understand it, you'd have to build them pretty close together so it couldn't escape, especially if it can turn into mist or fly, but theoretically I think that would work too if you could build fast enough.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Now I'm thinking about a homeless schizophrenic guy living in his mind palace forcing vampires out is "house" through sheer belief since that seems to have some effect on vampires depending on the lore

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe that a vampire is a representation of exploitative forces that you invite into your own life but could avoid if you chose to. A policeman is hard to avoid, especially if they have a warrant. Therefore, a vampire cannot be a policeman in the first place, since the state of being a policeman overwhelms the state of being a vampire.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bram Stoker had a different take

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Or vice versa, according to Blade.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A... Men... Let's start with grammar.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Ravnos or Brujah, fang?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

he could enter but he wouldn't without permission as his vampyrical torment exists deeper than his protect and sever police man gentle nudges.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We need a landlord to weigh in on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

An antideluvian, even.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.

If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if im an illegalist who doesnt pay taxes and reinforces my home's exterior?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am not a vampire lawyer, but vampire courts do tend to side with the vampire when these types of questions come up after the fact.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The protection is usually framed under the natural right to be safe at home, it has nothing to do with legal entitlements. i.e. someone considering a dwelling home makes it safe, not an arbitrary paper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

natural right to be safe at home

So nobody who lives under a state is protected?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. So, if they ask, "can I come in?" and you say, "Yes." then they still can't come in?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!

If you’re like me, you’re frustrated with vampire law. Here at Vampire Law, we help to keep your invitations clear and any misunderstandings cleared up.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

But if you're born in the USA, you didn't agree to any ToS it was forced upon you at birth. Never chose to accept/agree to them, but obligated to follow them or face punishment.

A contract signed under duress is invalid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While birth is certainly a state of duress for everyone involved, the term would have extreme difficulty in just about any court (glances at the current state of US judicial system uh. mostly.) — though I get where you're coming from and don't entirely disagree.

What a world it would be if those cosplaying porklets burst into flames simply by acting outside the Rules As Written. 🤩🥓🔥🤣 ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That would be pretty good.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

This is important.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we're going by carpe jugulum rules - yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Carpe Pulmonum? Carpe Phlebolum?

IIRC, "carpe" in its original definition was closer to "molest" than "grasp", and the phrase itself carried a more vulgar implication of violent dominance in its theme.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Fuck! I missed that! Maaan, that's gonna ding my geek cred score. 😅

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No a vampire requires permission from some1 inside the house it could be any1 in the house not just the owner. A warrent give legal permission to enter but its from outside the house thus making it useless for a vampire to enter with alone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is a pwrson? What if the vampire git a comouter program to intrude every system it could and make every speaker it got access to invite them in?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I’m outside the house and pulling weeds and a vampire walks up and I told them to come on in and motion them in the house first can they go in?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would they need to, are you anemic and lacking in blood? 🧛‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vampires can steal your valuables too! You don't know!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

So you need a non-vampire judge to enter the house and produce the warrant from inside, got it!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can confirm, no warrent carrying vampires have gotten into my house without permission from someone inside.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Can also confirm, killed vampire last week. Tree.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago

Can confirm; am vampire

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