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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

While at the same time they forbid AI generated answers on their website, oh the turntables.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (27 children)

See, this is why we can't have nice things. Money fucks it up, every time. Fuck money, it's a shitty backwards idea. We can do better than this.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Begun, the AI wars have.

Faces on T-shirts, you must print print. Fake facts into old forum comments, you must edit. Poison the data well, you must.

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't consider deleting my answers. Thanks for the good idea ~~Barbra~~ StackOverflow.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'd be shocked if deleted comments weren't retained by them

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Why?? Please make this make sense. Having AI to help with coding is ideal and the greatest immediate use case probably. The web is an open resource. Why die on this stupid hill instead of advocating for a privacy argument that actually matters?

Edit: Okay got it. Hinder significant human progress because a company I don't like might make some more money from something I said in public, which has been a thing literally forever. You guys really lack a lot of life skills about how the world really works huh?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Were in a capitalist system and these are for-profit companies, right? What do you think their goal is. It isn't to help you. It's to increase profits. That will probably lead to massive amounts of jobs replaced with AI and we will get nothing for giving them the data to train on. It's purely parasitic. You should not advocate for it.

If it's open and not-for-profit, it can maybe do good, but there's no way this will.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why can’t they increase profits, by you know, making the product better.

Do they have to make things shitter to save money and drive away people thus having to make it more shitter.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because being able to delete your data from social networks you no longer wish to participate in or that have banned you, as long as they specifically haven't paid you for the your contributions, is a privacy argument that actually matters, regardless and independent of AI.

In regards to AI, the problem is not with AI in general but with proprietary for-profit AI getting trained with open resources, even those with underlying license agreements that prevent that information being monetized.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Now this is something I can get behind. But I was talking about the decision to retaliate in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Because none of the big companies listen to the privacy argument. Or any argument, really.

AI in itself is good, amazing, even.

I have no issue with open-source, ideally GPL- or similarly licensed AI models trained on Internet data.

But involuntarily participating in training closed-source corporate AI's...no, thanks. That shit should go to the hellhole it was born in, and we should do our best to destroy it, not advocate for it.

If you care about the future of AI, OpenAI should long be on your enemy list. They expropriated an open model, they were hypocritical enough to keep "open" in the name, and then they essentially sold themselves to Microsoft. That's not the AI future we should want.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The enshittification is very real and is spreading constantly. Companies will leech more from their employees and users until things start to break down. Acceleration is the only way.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the enshittification continues...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

this is getting to be an interesting event / phenomenon

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