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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Command & Conquer Generals did it first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Biggest problem I see is that you are firing the case with the bullet. They don't work very well that way, though taking a page out of aperture science's playbook, it does give you 60% more bullet per bullet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Optical fiber is really not very flexible. It doesn't like sharp corners, it has pretty fast dropout, and if it gets banged against something it'll break.

It's good for infrastructure that doesn't move, it's not fantastic for controlling vehicles remotely. That's why remote control submarines don't use it and underwater is probably a more forgiving environment than in the air.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Pfft! Easy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

What is this, a war thunder forum? Stop releasing the secrets!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

This comment section is getting way too credible

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biggest issue I see is the weight of the wire. The farther up, or farther away the drone gets, the more weight of cable it needs to carry, and the more likely it is that this cable gets snared on something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

This could be easily resolved by attaching more drones to the fiber at regular intervals to keep it supported.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

S A C L O S

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Too many moving parts, replace the drone with a balloon.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

I've been preparing for this moment my entire life

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Something I've wondered about myself is having a laser communication system on the drone and controller on mounts that always turn to point at eachother, so that jamming the signal isn't doable because it's highly directional. Probably want a repeater drone that flies at high altitude above trees and terrain to give it line of sight on all the other drones

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah I saw some drone swarm ideas like that, hard to know what got picked up but having some drones as repeaters giving hard to disrupt signals locally and communicating with base units via highly directional laser or microwave repeater drones is almost certainly something they have or are working on.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Actually, everyone assumes that it is signal going through the fiber, but there are power over fiber systems available, and can deliver several Watts of power. Your drone would not need battery and can stay forever in the air. The same fiber can be used for signal transmission too, so it becomes more resilient to electronics warfare.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Power over fiber exists, but you need a seriously big unit to deliver anything over 15 watts. 15 watts does not lift a drone, and it really doesn't make it go as fast as a tank.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

15 watts could certainly lift a drone, a 15 watt drone probably couldn’t lift a 15 watt fiber power receiver though. Really the fiber is just silly. Use a laser or regular wires

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

DJI Mavic 3 (a modest camera drone) has a 74Wh battery with a claimed flight time of 46 minutes. That means it needs 48W.

High speed racing drones, like the kind you might want to make into a kamakazie drone, will take a lot more than that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mavic 3 is heavy. There are much lighter and much smaller drones that use less power. You wouldn’t need your tank-tethered drone to be fast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It needs to be able to support its own weight plus weaponry plus ammo

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ukraine actually did find a few Russian drones connected by an incredibly long thin tether. Since jamming drones' control channels is a massive issue on both sides and it would be nice just not to have to worry about it, it does make some level of sense. As far as I'm aware from public sources, the ultimate conclusion after not very many experiments was that it's way too much of a pain in the ass to be worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Just to be disgustingly credible for a moment, I imagine that the biggest practical issue with tethering a drone to, say, a tank, is that as soon as someone spots the drone (which is floating in the air with zero ability to camouflage itself) they have now spotted that you have a tank somewhere very close by. Close enough that just dropping an artillery barrage on the whole area probably isn't a waste. With good enough optics you could probably even follow the cable in order to get an exact location on the operator, and then introduce them to Mr Missile.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

This is such an obvious idea that it just shouldn't work yet it does

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The longest range wire-guided missiles in current use are limited to about 8 km (5.0 mi).

This blows my mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

If I remember right the cable only runs for a fraction of that distance. The missile goes up long enough to let the operator see and lock the target, then goes to self guidance for the rest of the trip.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Can't jam a missile getting a fucking telegraph.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yom Kippur was mentioned in the article. Some documentary mentioned the hundreds of trails of wire you could find on the battlefield. Not related but related idea were missiles streaming carbon fibers to short out electrical stations during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Missiles would be cooler if they didn't kill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Superhero with a shoulder mounted missile launcher like War Machine but they're Hawkeye's patented boxing glove missiles

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve read the same thing about the trails of wire all over the place in the Falklands also.

Also as someone who fired Javelins and TOWs in the Marine Corps, missiles are just fucking cool. I was always jealous of the SMAW guys tho bc they had a bigger kaboom on the firing side of things. Although that’s technically rocket I guess, but still cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Why hello there, Mr. 0352.

At least your MOS still exists. I was one of them SMAW guys, and now both my job and old unit have been deactivated. It makes me feel like even more of a dinosaur than I otherwise would when I talk to people about my time enlisted.

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