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Everything freedom loving Conservatives have banned Canadians from doing in recent years (www.thebeaverton.com)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago 
1. Using a name and pronouns that reflects their gender identity in school (Alberta, Saskatchewan, New Brunswick)

2. Wearing a keffiyeh in the legislature, even if they are just visiting (Ontario)

3. Learning about ways to prevent being sexually assaulted (Saskatchewan)

4. Playing sports while Trans (Alberta)

5. Helping drug addicts by giving them tools they need to avoid infection (Saskatchewan)

6. Placing renewable energy projects on their own land (Alberta)

7. Taking puberty blockers before puberty occurs (Alberta)

8. Wearing a visible religious symbol while working for the public sector (Quebec)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Since the day satire died November 6, 2016 The Beaverton has become a trusted news site.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  1. Wearing a visible religious symbol while working for the public sector

This one seems reasonable, I'm sure it applies universally and fairly to all religions right?...right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes the nudists finally won a victory. All that garden of eden shame stuff is finally gone. Judges, teachers and cops no longer wear any garment whose purpose is modesty.

Shame and modesty are of course punishment from God because of Eve having eaten the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If it's referencing Bill 21 then yes and it only applies to public servants with power over other people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

They are asking whether the prohibition affects Christians wearing cross and fish symbols, or only less popular religions' symbols and styles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How about wearing a wedding ring on the left hand 3rd finger? Since the 9th century, that’s primarily been a strongly Christian tradition, therefore arguably a symbol of Christianity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I think it's only arguably Christian. Loads of atheists follow that tradition and I would consider it culture not religion

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Then yes, it does affect them as well, I don't understand how people are so dumbfounded by that fact.

The only way Stats Can manages to make it seem like Quebec is more Christian than most provinces is by asking a biased question.

In the census:

`What is this person's religion?

Indicate a specific denomination or religion even if this person is not currently a practising member of that group.`

Well, considering our Catholic history and the fact that children were pretty much all getting baptized until the 90s, what do you think is the answer to that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For this law specifically, it didn't when it was first proposed. I was living in Montreal at the time and there were protests. The provincial government said the cross is "not a religious symbol" or something similar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So that's a lie...

"I was living in Montreal at the time"

Buddy, I've been living in Quebec longer than the average user on here has been alive and politics is one of my main interests in life.

They didn't want to remove the cross in the national assembly at first but they never considered the cross to not be a religious sign for the public servants mentioned in the law's text.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The Australian census has a similar question. "None" is not an option, though I don't think it's a mandatory question (though it's hard to get meaningful data out of blank versus a stated "none")

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I...don't get it, are you guys sure (Not from Canada lol) a conservative wrote it? What's the catch?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No catch, but some people don't like that it affects women who wear hijabs.

Frankly, I'm not even Quebecois and I agree with the law. If you're going for your driver's test and you're obviously gay, you're going to feel pretty nervous if your tester is wearing some fundie garb, whether it's a hijab or a cross around their neck. Worse still if you're going to apply for welfare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Don't talk on behalf of gay people you know nothing.

Hijabs are not "fundie garb". I am not treated badly by hijabi women and have never heard anyone complain of such.

What a vile attempt to insinuate amnosity between groups you have no involvement in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You used examples where the law doesn't apply, but imagine the same situation in front of a judge and they rule against you...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Yeah like I said, I'm not from QC, so I don't know the letter of the law. But that's a great example too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The catch is that the separation of state and religion is seen differently in Quebec compared to the rest of Canada. In Quebec everyone is made equal by getting religion out of public institutions (ex.: a judge can't wear a religious sign), in Canada everyone is made equal by being allowed to ask for religious exemptions (ex.: turban wearers don't have to wear a helmet to ride a motorcycle in Alberta).

Quebec passed a law to prevent certain public servants from wearing religious signs (teachers, judges, police officers...) and the rest of Canada didn't agree with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Wearing a visible religious symbol while working for the public sector

This has nothing to do with conservatism, it's about secularism, go to Turkey you'll see the same thing, France too, it does not come from conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Secularism isn't about hiding religion, it's about making it not matter.

And you'll recall that the laws in Quebec around this carved out exemptions for certain religious and cultural signifiers.

That isn't secularism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

In my country we allow everyone to wear whatever religious symbols, clothes, knives in public service workplaces since those things don't affect how they do their work, though telling them they may not have those things will push them out of the jobs, or make them upset and less productive if they don't leave

I see bans on religious symbols in the workplace as an attempt to reduce the number of people who value those symbols in those workplaces

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No, you see, it either comes from a liberal or a conservative.

There is no in-between, outliers, or overlap.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is fantastic, another great Beaverton article.

  1. Learning about ways to prevent being sexually assaulted (Saskatchewan)

Parents can still arrange for their children to take these sexual education courses privately, so it’s only the vulnerable, less protected children who will be left without the knowledge!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

[~~laughs~~ cries in Floridian]

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)
  1. Placing renewable energy projects on their own land (Alberta)

Not on public land. On private land. But only when it would block the pristine views of the wildfires that are getting worse every year for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

And views of pump jacks!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a very factual article. I'm not sure where the satire is.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The satire is that some citizens of Canada think these are good things.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And some Canadians held pro-Trump marches during the last American elections....we also have idiots, no country is immune from having dumb people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Sadly, the real story's in the comments.