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Today in a Privacy community a post about YouTube. No word about privacy but all about which software or settings are needed to watch videos and the money needed to host videos. It made me wonder whether some of you can lead a meaningful life without YouTube. Or will a cold turkey bring the worst out of you ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes hypothetically but only if the youtubers I actually care about have content elsewhere as well. Which is some but not many

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably one of the harder things that I could do. It's a replacement for TV so I could try and slot in TV but I think it would be frustrating to not have the copious amounts of content

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

TV is simply not there. Some YouTube channels are about a topic that's so niche that there's nothing similar on TV.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Yeah. It would suck, but I'll make it.

I guess I know where the good stuff is in the trash heap? I've been a user of Youtube since before Google bought it, and...I think the algorithm just has so much data on me that I don't see a lot of the swill newcomers will. I do believe the platform is enshittifying from several different directions though, particularly from Alphabet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I don't get the appeal of YouTube. I use it for maybe the odd music video or something, but often you'll just get someone's annoying commentary instead of the actual thing.

I live without it and it's great! Try it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Blows my mind with the responses on here. I use YouTube maybe once a month, if something interesting pops up? Or for a music video or a science related subject. Reading is just so much more pleasant than trying to go through all the spam, trash, ads, and bad videos. I don't know how you all stand youtube personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

High five! I love reading πŸ™‚

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Live? Yes. Remain sane? That’s to be determined.

Really though, I watch it for entertainment purposes 95% of the time. If YouTube were to seize to exist, I’d probably find an alternative or stick to streaming services like Twitch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Just a small correction (hope you don't hate me), but it should be "cease", not "seize" in your sentence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not to detract from your point, but the word you're looking for is cease. Seize is to forcibly obtain something, like "seizing the means of production."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, you right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I use YouTube for instructions on how to do things. I can listen to podcasts anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I only watch movie and game trailers on YouTube, so yes, it would not bother me if they would be bankrupt tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I had to give up YouTube I'd move to Nebula. It's been growing and is steadily getting better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, they've got a ton of great documentaries there, plus some other series that are pretty great.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I can. But I wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

There are a lot of great creators on YouTube, and I would definitely miss their videos. But if YT gets much worse (and it's getting worse by the day), I can live without it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If YouTube died tomorrow I'd be sad to lose a lot of my regular content, especially edutainment like Steve Mould, Veritasium, and Tom Scott.

But I'd probably just replace that portion of my time with some other form of content consumption, like streaming more shows or more reading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I dont feel YouTube has much to offer. I actually really dont like finding advice in video format. Id much rather have it as a post somewhere.

Entertainment wise i never use YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Of course anyone can live without YouTube, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of enjoyable content that I would miss without it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

YouTube has one use for me - the occasional video on how to do something technical

How people watch hour after hour of other people's inane ramblings I will never know. You must have have an incredibly low bar for what you consider entertainment πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Personally, YouTube isn’t other people’s inane rambling for me. It’s science education, it’s about how to identify and forage for food, it’s video essays about nuclear disasters… it’s constantly introducing me to new conceptsβ€” like why lawns are bad for the environment, how other countries tackle the problem of traffic and public transportation, why DIY air purifiers are more effective than nearly every commercial air purifier on the market, etc.

It’s a platform where the medium is video form content. Everything is available there. Both garbage and gold. It’s the way that you use it that determines which one you get. For me, it’s like Wikipedia in video form. With the occasional bit of entertainment on the side, as a treat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Wikipedia in Video Form is a great line! I feel much the same way, but I think that's not the entire picture. Wikipedia is a lot of declarative knowledge (i.e. what things are and Al's maybe why they are), but YouTube is a lot of procedural knowledge for me. That is how to X. My GF and I finally found an apartment. I don't know how to replace broken light switches, but in five minutes YouTube taught me how.

I didn't know how to replace a faucet - now I do. I did not know how to insert a metal screw fitting into the furniture I was constructing - now I do. I wanted to measure our energy consumption, figuring there had to be a way to it it smart/connected and Open Source. YT content creators showed me how.

The list goes oooonnnnnn

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The people that say it's their main form of entertainment must have to wade through so much crap to get to anything good, I just don't see the point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, you can say the same about every form of entertainment. Music? Majority is crap. Movies? Crap. Sports? Crap. Books? Crap. Video games? Crap.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Youtube so long that it kind of isn't a problem. I've got a bunch of creators I follow, most of whom have stable release schedules. The likes of RedLetterMedia, Astrum and SEA (two unrelated yet adjacent "European guy talks calmly about space" channels), Summoning Salt, TierZoo, etc. Recently the folks behind The New Yankee Workshop have been uploading the show to Youtube, and I've been enjoying that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I guess if you've been using it for a long time and have favourites built up that would work. I remember when YouTube started and it was pretty good, but with every video trying to game the algorithms I couldn't imagine trying to start afresh now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

What do you do for entertainment?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

YouTube is my streaming app. They have me by the throat. I could give up every other video app before I gave up YouTube. I wish it weren't true, but it is. YouTube just has the best content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe yes, Maybe not.

Most of the youtubers I used to watch years ago have become full-time Twitch streamers and their channels now only serve for highlights. My currently watched content revolves mostly around memes of specific games (most of which may also be available in other platforms at the expense of subtitles).

At least for now I can say that I could live without Youtube as ~90% of my entertainment on the web currently comes from outside the platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I used to watch a lot of YouTube stuff (like probably a good ten hours a week) for years. Since covid lock down (4 years ago!) I have barely watched anything on it. I still add videos to my watch later play list but I know I'll never watch them all as I've got hundreds of videos there...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I've, unfortunately, gotten in to the habit of having YouTube playing on my second screen when doing anything at my computer. Can't fall asleep without some history documentary playing.

Bad habit on my short list for eradicating.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Absolutely. Almost never use it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I barely use YouTube in the first place

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Not if you're into music or you work in the industry (venues, producing, etc..): everything is on YouTube and Spotify, light years ahead of places like SoundCloud, Beatport, etc

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I feel as though I missed the heyday of youtube, and only really started using it within the last few years, so perhaps my perspective is a bit skewed, but I don't really get the point of a lot of content on there. A lot of the content I consume could easily be replicated elsewhere, or in a different format. A good deal of tech content I consume would be improved, in my view, if it were just a website with an associated discussion forum for clarifying or expanding upon any points people don't fully get. Plenty of food channels would be better if they were just a cookbook, because they waste so much time on stuff nobody cares about in order to hit a magic length for the algorithm. Most of the long form stuff I come across could just be podcasts without losing anything of value for me.

I'm entirely willing to say this may well be my "old man yells at clouds" moment, but I just don't get the majority of youtube content. The appeal of things like Lets Plays (outside of seeing exactly how to beat a spot you're stuck on) and Vtubers is completely alien to me. I do enjoy travel content, but I find a lot of the stuff uploaded by independent youtube creators to be pretty exploitative and don't enjoy watching it. I don't think BBC or Arte or the like willl disappear with youtube. I doubt I'll miss it very much when it eventually gets killed and Google launches a worse video site one of these days.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of long form researched videos that I like on yt. They could definitely be hosted on a different site but having stuff like those in a central location lets people find them more easily.

https://youtu.be/F2sk_Cy9mdU

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/F2sk_Cy9mdU

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I kept saying "yes but", as I read this. But then you said podcast, and I was like ooooh yeah I can do without YouTube. Just need my guys to ship their audio as a podcast.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I used to watch let's plays as a teen because I couldn't play the games myself... Also used to talk about some of them at school with friends so like watching a TV show I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I never watch videos unless I have to so yeah

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