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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Fuck Oracle.

(Just wanted to say this, similar to "Carthago delenda est")

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's a big club.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Let's all gather to celebrate the super-rich supporters of our guy corrupting democracy and cast scorn on their super-rich supporters of their guy corrupting democracy.

I mean, Biden's campaign having more money is generally a good thing, but it's not good news when a single person gives $929,600 after having a private meeting with a politician.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

You think Biden is corrupting democracy?

The private meeting was "less than a dozen people" hosted by a real estate dude. Not a politician or even CEO- NOT to say he didn't have power but it definitely is not one that can extend much farther than the reach of his wallet.

Meanwhile we have a disgraced former president that clogged the courts with bogus claims, uses his influence to sic followers on people he doesn't like, been accused of (and in some cases, convicted) tax fraud, rape, sexual assualt/harassment, shit wait, THERE IS A LIST!

I know it sounds like I'm being combative but I genuinely don't hear any details that make biden suck. They make him suck like every other president has sucked, but not like a dictator. It's boring politics actual shit that we should agree to disagree on because it's way too complicated, not this "is a book terrible for kids cuz 2 men hold hands in it?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

$929,600 donations are corrupting democracy. To anyone. Biden met privately with this guy before he signed over nearly a million dollars. Are you sure there was no quid-pro-quo in this interaction? Some people in his administration seem to be there because they were donors, not on personal competence.

Do you expect someone skeptical about Biden or the government in general to feel more or less confident in the strength and validity of our democracy after a private meeting yields just under a million dollars from a single individual? There's a reason judges are supposed to recuse for the appearance of conflict of interest, not whether they actually are biased. When government officials' motivations are questionable, people lose faith in government, which in turn makes it easier for "outsiders" to come in and wreck it all. A strong democracy with broad faith in government doesn't produce politicians like Trump. The malaise and distrust stemming from this form of politics feeds directly into the threat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, if you're going to be combative this is exactly the kind of thing to be combative about.

"Biden sucks!!! 1!" vs Dude I literally can not trust to leave at a 2nd round of 4 more years after throwing a temper tantrum worse than a 4 year old child losing at Monopoly.

Yeah I'll take more milquetoast president please with a side helping of respect for the rule of fucking law.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're right. I suppose it is that I don't mean it personally, as I'm arguing the idea, rhetoric, mindset etc and not necessarily challenging that individual's specific beliefs. But still encouraging them to share because I do appreciate learning other perspectives.

Maybe someday it will be something I haven't heard before. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Good luck homie!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

Eat them all.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Is this our new aristocracy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

First time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Plutocracy, if you want to get pedantic.

Coprolithocracy, if you want to get snarky. (rule by fossilized feces)

 

...I'm leaning toward the latter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

“New” lol

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

“New” as in “this season” of aristocracy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Ouch.

You're not wrong, but ouch

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I wonder what the angle is here…

Or maybe it’s a hedge play. Have son donate to Democrats. Shitty father continues to donate to GOP.

Or maybe son is angling for a tech regulation to break up father’s empire. In the fallout, he secures a larger piece of his fathers empire.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Or it could just be that the son isn't a conservative dickhead and wants the correct choice to win, everything doesn't have to be some weird conspiracy (though sometimes it is ofc)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

To quote George Carlin: it's a big club and you ain't in it..

Just rich people looking out for the interests of rich people. That economy Biden is being praised so much for? The stock market, 90%+ of which is owned by the richest 10%.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Also the possibility that the son knows his dad is a dick, and knows one of the best ways to stick it to his old man is to donate some of his own nepo-baby money to something that is in direct opposition to his dad's donations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Larry Ellison, who historically has been a major Republican donor, has not made a single federal political donation so far in 2024, records show. Ellison donated more than $ 3 I million to GOP candidates during the 2022 congressional midterms, according to data from OpenSecrets.

I suspect the family is intentionally sending a message. Lbr, having the son of a proud republican donate to the most neoliberal candidate of 2020/4 isn't going to be taboo among any of the wealth. Many may donate to "both" sides even. This isn't a son snubbing his father, this is a wealthy family of influence that have the bare minimum of human decency to not pay to have chaos in the white house again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. - Bryan Cantrill

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

They forced tiktok to store all their data on Oracle's servers, and I'm sure Oracle gets billions of dollars in government contracts through other ways as well. Some of that's flowing back to the politicians that will continue to make those decisions.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Donate both ways, guarantee winning.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

Its common practice for the wealthy to play both sides. You would see a lot more of it if you could trace all the dark money.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately the campaign is now locked into the Oracle licensing agreement

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Uh oh, better look at his laptop or something.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yup. His father is HUGE into supporting the Prostitutive Arts. He must be as well.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, genetics determine behavior eh? That certainly explains why every Trump descendant is a ripe cunt.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Not talking genetics at all. Where'd you get that?