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cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/6002282

He revealed the secrets !

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

The only problem you can't solve with Access is too much Access.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Is Microsoft Access what they call Microsoft Excel nowadays?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

No Microsoft Access is/was a GUI software actually meant to have databases instead of how everyone uses Excel/spreadsheets as databases. It is a part of the office suite. It works pretty much like traditional databases but has an easier to access GUI for non programmers I guess. I don't think it's used a ton nowadays except for legacy processes that haven't been updated.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

We've been spending decades curating our perception by management in order to make sure we all have jobs. He's gonna ruin the whole industry if we don't shut him the hell up

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait until this guy finds out that Elon doesn't actually build the cars

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Or contribute to society at all really

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. If Elon shut down Tesla tomorrow all these engineers would be building electric cars at other companies.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Wait till they find out what software 'architects' really do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A good software engineer is also an architect. You don't need dedicated architects if you have good developers.

But on the other hand there are much more questionable and unnecessary jobs like product managers or managers of managers.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I tried to get a software architect to explain their job to me once, it was like a "lean startup", a libertarian, and a psychic had written an elevator pitch together.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait, did you find out? Can you tell us?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Sorry, I don't have enough certifications to answer that question.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They do the same thing building architects do. They draw pretty pictures of the end product that may of may not be structurally sound, then rely on engineers to build it and make sure it doesn't collapse.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As a programmer, I concur. I sit on my arse all day pushing keys , anybody can do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You gotta push them in the right order

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Just install a library to do that

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

The biggest thing he got wrong is the assumption that it's good programmers writing libraries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Ok, the jig is up. We are exposed. Better pack our bags and get out while we can.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I used to joke with my niece that my programming job was just me staring at screens and meetings all day. She didn't believe me until she got to shadow me one day and got super bored.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

It's not as easy as it sounds, sometimes the screens are all wrong!! https://xkcd.com/722/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What did she think before?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

But when your brain is fascinated by all that has to happen for those screens and meetings to happen, it can still be an interesting job.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's mind bending that there are actual humans on the planet, paid a shit tonne more than software developers, who not only believe the parody highlighted by @SwiftOnSecutity, but treat and share it as gospel, acting on it with nutjob metrics to "increase productivity" whilst salivating over the hyperbole around "AI" that is sweeping the globe, dreaming of a better world.

One without those pesky developers with their brains, thoughts and opinions.

But, what do I know, I've been in this profession for only 40 years..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You know what they do to old engineers don't you?

EDIT : https://youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That movie was... ... ...something!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Does it involve quicklime?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think I botched the Office space quote, I thought tom said something at some point about

"you know what they do to old engineers don't you? They take them out back and *gun noise*"

EDIT : https://youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're good, I was making an unrelated BOFH reference, even more obscure. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I fixed it, it's from Primer.

EDIT : https://youtu.be/fN-VAdAnoZ4?t=31

" you know what they do with engineers when they turn 40? they take them out and shoot them"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I'll take it over QuickTime

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You're probably not the biggest asshole in the room. In my experience, the person making decisions (and the most money) is never the most qualified, most competent, most efficient, or hardest working individual. They are just the biggest asshole in the room. They're willing to be loud and belligerently wrong, they're willing to take credit for the accomplishments of others, they're willing to shift blame onto someone else, they're willing to demand everyone else work harder than they do, and they're willing to demand far more than their fair share of the profit.

And they will be mollified by the rest because nobody is a bigger asshole. Most people just want to do their jobs, and don't want to rock the boat. Competent people see opportunity to ride in the wake of the biggest asshole in the room.

If you ever watch Shark Tank, you'll see they are masters of the craft.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

They are just the biggest asshole in the room.

So one day the different body parts were arguing over who should be in charge.

The eyes said they should be in charge, because they were the primary source of information about the world.

The stomach said it should be in charge because digestion was the source of energy.

The brain said it should be in charge because it was in charge of information processing and decision-making.

The rectum said nothing, just closed up shop.

Before long, the vision was blurry, the stomach was queasy, and the brain was foggy.

Assholes have been in charge ever since.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

They are just the biggest asshole in the room

That's always fun in sales. The vendor that brazenly promises two-and-a-half mirage for half the price will win the bid, and the sales people will move on to a different employer when the real budget for the project becomes clear.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that most of us have swallowed the 'competence uber alles' ideal that school fed us through exams and scoring, when the game really is mostly politics (as in interpersonal relationships). So we are understandably disappointed when the incompetent get promoted through brown nosing or luck, when we should be reevaluating the rules of the game.

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[–] [email protected] 202 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Aren’t IT people just janitors that tell you to turn it off and back on again?

[–] [email protected] 144 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been an actual janitor and a sysadmin... they're not dissimilar. You clean up other people's shit for a living.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So do I but with exception of the unfortunate cp that calls for bleaching eyes (and security) one is more sanitary than the other…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I hope you work with the public, sounds like a weird organization

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Any day you/your company could potentially be contacted by a 3 letter agency and/or the police to pull the data from a specific user for an investigation. "ESI request" is a term I hear on occasion.

It's a good idea to be on good terms with your employers lawyers.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The IT people! The DEV team’s worst nemesis! They must be stopped before we are destroyed!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reboots your server

Changes your credentials

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Eats your pasta

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

hahaha, this reminds me of certain politicians...

Where they say the quiet part out loud, while most people will ignore it and the status quo continues as is.

We don't want the Silicon Valley bubble to imploding, right?

p.s. would burst be a better word than imploding? word of the day...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That would work!

I seem to prefer the pronunciation of the prefix of 'implode' vs 'explode', a bit too much, hahaha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that one would work!

Seems, I wanted an excuse to use the word, 'implode', hahaha

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