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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Take the same approach as home schooling. Community comes from engaging in other activities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Lol my old boss hated remote work because he had to spend time with his family.

"I gotta get to the office mates!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Best thing about working from home is stepping away from my desk, popping upstairs, and tossing my little baby boy up in the air a few times while he giggles and smiles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

This was me until I realized I didn't have a child and that I lived in the first floor.

Where was I going? What giggled as I tossed it into the air?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That‘s one way to call it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

childless men miss sense of community

Myself and everyone I know works remote. We're all childless/childfree and not a single one of us miss any community, we all feel there are zero downsides to it. This just comes across like propaganda to stop people working remote and return to office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have friends and live with friends and I still feel lonely when working remotely. I like hybrid the most because sometimes i need to just go into work and talk about the things im working on with people who actually understand (not work related talks just for fun)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you like to go into work in order to waste time talking talking about non work related things? Make sense why you should stay remote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Its not a waste of time, its very useful. I can see how a robot such as yourself wouldnt understand.

You can spend your 8 hours a day in a cubicle and I will spend it having fun and working along side people I genuinely like.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I work remote (Going on 9 years now) and I miss a sense of community. Do I want to stop working remotely? Hell no, screw that. But two things can be true the same time, I can enjoy and encourage them at work, dnd I can also miss a sense of community.

I think it's okay to hold this opinion because it's individual to everyone.

This just comes across as propaganda

Being dismissive and pulling the rhetoric that this is propaganda is toxic as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The truth often is somewhere in the middle

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I agree that forcing return to office is either stupid or harmful. But I do like the people I work with, and not seeing them anymore would be saddening

The solution is obvious though, simply allow choice

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'm single and childless and I personally like being hybrid. Full work from home fucks my mental health up pretty bad. I'm definitely in the minority among my peers though. I also wouldn't ever ask that anyone else be forced to come back to the office just because it isn't for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ability to work from home has given me innumerable benefits, but I must admit that as a very introverted guy who's been going through some shit, and who's go-to move during times of anxiety and depression is to distance themselves from everyone... yeah, sometimes I do miss my coworkers. A lot of them are pretty great people. Doesn't mean I'd rather spend 3 hours a day sitting in traffic to see them, just means I low-key miss someone to bitch with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In theory, we have the Third Space for that kind of socializing. Parks, plazas, union halls, club spaces and dance halls, churches, community centers, libraries...

In practice, they've been gradually privatized and monetized until everything is The Mall. If you don't have $10 to spend for the hour, there's nowhere you can legally so much as sit down. Hard to socialize on these terms.

My city decided to take its $7B budget and close a $330M shortfall by gutting parks, libraries, and other public amenities. Meanwhile, the police and fire departments are seeing a budget surge of over $100M.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to kick your city in the nuts. How could you gut parks and libraries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

John Witmire is a DINO by every definition of the word. He's deep in bed with the police, he loves privatization of public services, and he makes common cause with the state's Republican leadership on a regular basis. Nothing the man loves more than "balancing the budget" on the backs of public workers and low income residents.

But he's been a Democrat since he took his State Senate seat and squatted in it back in 1983. So the party apparatus loyally and mechanically supported him all through the primary and general elections. The "It's my turn" candidate is taking his turn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's something I've noticed in general.

I had an amazing boss who was single and lived alone, and really love her staff. We had unecessarily long staff meetings every week. When I started I was annoyed by them until someone pointed out that the time we spent with everyone getting distracted and going off-topic and padding out the meeting while we ate our lunch around the conference room table was, for her, the weekly family meal.

I still don't like unnecessary meetings, but it gave me a different perspective on why some people like them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I work in a bar, and I love seeing most of my coworkers. I obviously can't speak on the WFH aspect, as it'd be impossible for me, but enjoying the company of the people you work with isn't a foreign concept, especially in the service industry

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I actually don't like my coworkers very much I definitely wouldn't hang out with them so not having to be near them all day is a benefit.

It's not even that they are bad people, it's just that they are people who I wouldn't choose to hang out with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Itt: cognitive disonannce.

The study isn't bs. Lemmy users just won't accept that they don't even come close to representing the average individual.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The study isn’t bs.

There's a lot of "I'm childless and proud and how dare you suggest living in isolation and screaming at my computer screen all day has had any negative impact on my mental health. You're just trying to trick me into breeding! A thing I became intensely averse to just recently, after spending 16 hours a day on incel forums full of reactionary influencers."

So much of the knee-jerk ingrained responses online are indicative of people who have utterly lost the ability to think for themselves and are only capable of lashing out in defense of their latest favorite social media trend. Add in the artificial interactions created by bot accounts and people spamming content for self-promotion, and you've got a real recipe for mass psychosis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Or if we use less adversarial language, this study is far from universal and its findings should be applied with the understanding that not all people will not match those who were in the study. As with most things, far more research is needed to get a thorough understanding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, I'd say this fits solidly in the category of "heaps of research indicating that single men suffer more in situations that promote isolation". Adversarial language or not, the average Lemmy users is so far in their own social phobia that they don't register that most humans, being social animals, thrive with MORE interaction and not less.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

41 year old male, no kids, no wife or girlfriend, been work from home for 5 years now. I've never been happier and more productive.

I get my sense of community from my friends not my coworkers. This study is B.S.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Just because you have anecdotal evidence of the contrary doesn't mean it can't be true, quantitatively. I, too, am a childless man - although I do have a wife - and don't resonate with this, but that doesn't mean I'll just cast aside the findings. Many, especially young, men are unhappy in their everyday, partly due to a lack of sense od community in the "modern" world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know there are always outliers because research often looks at populations in general and not the exact experience of a specific person. Unless it’s a case study but that’s different.

Either way that’s a really good thing for you, the modern world makes it difficult to make and keep close to friends.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, and I was drawing on anecdotal evidence that I didn't elaborate on in my original comment. While I know there are people who do not do well or enjoy work from home, I have yet to meet those people, all my coworkers and friend group are loving work from home.

So a more accurate statement would have been, based on my personal experience along with with coworkers and my friend circle this study is B.S.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Tbf there's definitely some confirmation bias in there because a person who didn't enjoy being remote probably wouldn't seek that type of job

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Being childfree is its own reward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No we don't. Work is work, not fucking community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I like my coworkers. They're cool. I just went to acro yoga with one, and go bouldering with another. We show up, talk shit, and get the job done - sometimes it's a good time. Sometimes we get our asses kicked. But that builds camradrie, too.

I will say, this is blue collar stuff. When I worked as a software dev, I definitely didn't care about spending much time with my coworkers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess it's a poor choice of words but there's definite value in workplace camaraderie. Don't let your jadedness fuel the bosses' union busting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Unions haven't got anything to do with it. Unions are about protecting you from unfair business practises, it's not a social club, nor do they try to be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes I do, speak for yourself.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Well, just from reading that I can assure you your coworkers don't.

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