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I am looking for a name for an idea that I have for a website. It is a niche hobby, but there is a greek word for it that most people don't know. Lets say its a book club and the word was Bibliophile or a music club called Melophile.

Would you, if you did not know the meaning, think of it as something sexual, or maybe even something bad? I am nervous that users might relate it to pedophile even though that is just one of, (but maybe best known) philias there are

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd simply guess "lover, liker, fond of", without any obligatory sexual connotation. Even if I don't recognise the first part, as in... say, "wugphile" ("wug" is just a nonsense placeholder).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you created a page called "Wugphile" I would totally think it was about linguistics :D

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I assume the people who automatically think of something negative or sexual when hearing the word „phile“ are the same people you don’t want to associate with in the first place. Their opinion is worthless and can be ignored. Don’t waste your time with other people’s ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'd agree with you, but if it is for the purpose of educating people, I wouldn't want to scare them away because they would feel its a risky click when linked to...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

If I didn't know the meaning, I would just be confused about seeing the words since I wouldn't know what they meant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

No, but I'm surprised you didn't go with the suffix mania.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nah it's okay. Anglophile doesn't mean you want to bang me.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if this is international but it's a common joke in British media to use this as a bit of a joke, for example a geeky character might say that they're a bibliophile, and the dumb character will make it sexual.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Most people here say no. I'm not so sure, however.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's only two words with the 'phile' ending that is sexual that I can think of. But audiophile, videophile, and a host of others use that ending in the context of a preference or attraction: nemophile has nothing to do with animated fish, for instance. Hemophilia is another example of a commonplace word that is definitely not sexual.

I want to think the average person knows there's no sex in halophilia, but we could be overestimating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You may be right, but it is interesting that most sexual interests have a "-philia" name although they are described as paraphilias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

"one who pays too much for speaker cables"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

A true audiophile can tell the difference between when its wound clockwise vs anticlockwise. /s

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Botanophile... my question is, what the average user who does not know the word or can guess it, will think of it. There is not doubt that it is not a sexual suffix, but if the reader does not recognize it, would they think it was?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Just go with Botanyphile. With perhaps a very brief explanation in the Forward.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That you like IRC bots.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (5 children)

When I hear "audiophile", I truly never think about licking the banana-plugs, so nope.

There are also some popular YT channels like Computerphile and Numberphile

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah another user mentioned those two too. The interesting part is that they have used a mixture of english and greek. For example Numberphile uses the enlish word "number" instead of the proper Arithmophile. I wonder if this is to make it easier to understand

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just remember that the average Lemmy user is a bit more literate than the average kneejerk reaction idiot. Id say theres nothing wrong with it but you can probably come up with something a little more catchy and clever if you put your mind to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you are right. I might go with a mixture of English and Greek like an other user mentioned (computerphile, numberphile, bookphile) even though they are not proper.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I honestly think Bibliophile is used commonly enough that most people would understand it. Not quite as much as Audiophile, but you do hear it. It also sounds, info, much better than Bookphile.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would understand that it just means a connoisseur of something, but you could always change the spelling to "file" to make it more digital-y and even less associated with problematic obsessions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is actually interesting! I wanted to use "files" to start with, like "Flower-Files" but the domain was taken. So i thought flowerphiles could be a fun twist. The true word would be Anthophile though, (or Botanophile for plants) and people would not necessarilly know this (this is btw an example and not the actual wordplay that I am working on atm)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No. There's plenty of common examples of that suffix being used in a non-sexual non-negative context. For example: someone who enjoys reading books is called a bibliophile, there's also the youtube channels Computerphile and Numberphile.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

yeah I used the bibliophile example in my text above. ,Computerphile and Numberphile, are mixed words of english/greek. It is actually interesting, for examble, that they have used Numberphile instead of Arithmophile, wich would be the actual word. My concern is when people don't recognize the prefix and only recognize the suffix, if that will be different

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, because I know what the suffix means.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But this is my question. The suffix means "to like" but this can be a good and a bad thing, depending on what the prefix is, like mentioned in the description. If you did not recognize the prefix would the average user assume the suffix to be sexual or negatively charged?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, I don't think there is anything inherently sexual about the suffix, so no. But can't speak for the average user.

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