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I am looking for a name for an idea that I have for a website. It is a niche hobby, but there is a greek word for it that most people don't know. Lets say its a book club and the word was Bibliophile or a music club called Melophile.

Would you, if you did not know the meaning, think of it as something sexual, or maybe even something bad? I am nervous that users might relate it to pedophile even though that is just one of, (but maybe best known) philias there are

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah, I just assume it's someone that really likes something. Kind of like saying food-porn but even less sexual. Like Audiophile is common parlance that evokes no sexual meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

No, because I'm no uncultured swine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Is it “furryphile”? Then yeah, they’ll think it’s sexual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

When I was in a college level genetic biology class, we were discussing the early experiments using fruit flies. Their scientific name being Drosophila melanogaster; a species of fly in the family Drosophilidae. Pronounced "drow-sof-ila." Well I had only ever read it, so when I raised my hand to ask a question, I didn't understand why everyone was snickering as I pronounced it "draw-so-filia."

Here I was trying to talk about genetics and instead I was making public a secret fly kink

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

“Audiophile” has never before brought to mind the concept of “pedophile”.

In fact, note the way we shorten the word: “pedo”.

I wouldn't worry about it. But I’m autistic, so the way my brain processes these words might be different than an NT’s brain.

Mostly I think it’s only going to be a problem for people who are looking for trouble, and you can’t really avoid problems with those people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Hello. Yes stupid people do this and I ignore them or laugh at them for being stupid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Not necessarily, it depends on whether I recognize the first part of the word. For example, I dont immediately think "audiophile," is negative or sexual in nature.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It really depends. I think -phile tends to make me think non-sexual, and -philia makes me think sexual. Probably just because of how the words are used.

People tend to be willing to describe themselves as an x-phile, but psychological or legal literature are more likely to say something like "a person with x-philia" or "displaying traits of x-philia".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I suspect the part with descriptions in literature is due to it being in a 3rd person. There seems to be a recent-ish trend though for people to refer to themselves in a 'person who has X' sense though to separate the person from the condition so maybe that changes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Person First language. "A person with autism" means we use the word for the diagnosis, rather than the word for a diagnosed person (e.g., "autist"? Was that ever a real word?).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the phrase I was looking for.

I'm pretty sure autist as a single word description was more a 4chan thing, but autistic person has been pretty common use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

In autistic online communities, we tend to refer to ourselves as autists. Sometimes I call myself “an autistic”.

It doesn’t bother me, personally. And it seems to not bother the other autistic people I’ve interacted with.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Phile is pretty much the best known greek suffix out there. It gets tagged onto most hobbies, so you don't have to worry about it being defaulted to sexual matters. Tbh, most of the paraphilias are so obscure that nobody without an interest in the field is going to know them the way -phobias are. I mean, can you name the other chronophilias besides pedophilia? Did you even know that there were others? Most people really only know one or two sexual-philias at most, where they'll have heard of a dozen or so non sexual ones.

But, just tacking phile or philia onto a word can be clunky, so you might end up with it not working well anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah I shared a link in an other comment about this. There seem to be quite a lot, and most of them end with "philia". This is also my main concern. That most will have heard the suffix used with one of those

https://lemmy.world/comment/8887844

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I have some interest in chemistry and after a while when I hear "phile" my first thought is "they are attracted to water".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A nucleophile happens by and notices your electrophile. Your electrophile is attracted to their greater electron density and ditches you, the leaving group, for them. Was this SN1 or SN2?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Hydrophilic!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is audiophile. It refers to someone who is obsessed about audio quality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Theres also Audiophilic content too, and yet if you say you're an audiophile no one mistakes it to mean you listen to audio porn. Context is going to be king with that suffix I wager.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a large group though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

where do you think they keep coming from??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Sorry my bad. Butt fuck them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I don't but I feel like some other people might.

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