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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Everyone forgot about Ukraine already

[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The US shifted from a veto to abstaining, which is as close as the US is likely going to get to voting against Israel. That’s actually a huge shift, as soft as it might seem.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Tough for Biden to balance between:

  • Leaning too heavily into Israel and siding with genocide.

  • Leaning too heavily against, and being accused of being pro-Hamas.

Worse, if Biden withdraws all aid to Israel and then Israel is hit with another terrorist attack, manufactured or not, that's the end of Biden.

Within the electorate resides Jewish Americans who still largely support Israel by the polling, and the progressives and Palestinian Americans (a fat smaller voting bloc).

Best Biden is going to manage in toeing the line is singling out Netanyahu (who himself is unpopular in Israel) instead of Israel itself and actions like this.

The risk obviously being that if Biden loses this election, the guy who wouldn't just indirectly but likely directly commit genocide against Palestinians would come in and you certainly wouldn't hear the words, "indiscriminate bombing" from Trump's facial sphincter..

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

if Biden withdraws all aid to Israel and then Israel is hit with another terrorist attack, manufactured or not, that’s the end of Biden.

Crazy that it's somehow Biden's fault if they get attacked again. Imagine if Netanyahu lost his power because someone else his the US with a terror attack.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how it would be the end of Biden anyway, he's not responsible for the security of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I mean, okay, technically you're not wrong; but it would affect his performance in what all involved seem to expect will be a closely contested election... So it could (and likely would) literally be the end of the Biden Administration.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is this a rerun of the vote where Russia and China vetoed last week?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No. That vote was on the US’ draft of a ceasefire resolution. China and Russia blocked it.

Now the US is getting out of the way for a different, non US drafted, version of a ceasefire resolution to pass.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We'd need the texts of all the different resolutions the SC has attempted on this issue to say what changed where at whose request, but the article makes it look this is closer to a rerun of resolutions the US vetoed weeks ago

The UN Security Council has called for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza, after the US did not veto the measure in a shift from its previous position

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wording related to the release of all the hostages was added, hence why the US didn't veto:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147931

The UN Security Council on Monday passed a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan, the immediate and unconditional release of hostages and "the urgent need to expand the flow" of aid into Gaza.

Emphasis mine.