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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Ok, so let me try to make sense of this:

Around the year 2010-2020, i and many other vehemently warned against the issue of rising national debt. Yet "experts" said "it's fine, we can make as much debt as we want to, nothing bad is going to happen because of it lol".

Starting in the last 5 years or so, lots of experts say "oh no, the national debt is way to high, that's a disaster, that's a catastrophe, we can't let that happen, who put us into this situation?" Just let me appreciate the irony for a bit. I fucking called it. I said this was going to happen. I was called insane. This feels really validating to me.

Anyways, since now lots of people, including economists, are angry that the debt is too high, people want it lowered. The obvious and straightforward solution would of course be to introduce a wealth tax (i.e. a tax on millionaires and billionaires).

In the beginning of 2025, Musk and Trump both agreed (at least in public) that the debt has to be lowered. Musk's attempt was to cut the federal government. Well, the federal government spends money for two things, mostly: subsidies (social security, medical bill assistance, ...) and data-processing (i.e., enforcing regulations, tax collection agency, ...). The first one costs most of the money, but reducing it gets the public angry (understandably) and is therefore a political suicide. The second one doesn't really cost that much, yet that is the one that Musk attempted to reduce to the point of dysfunctionality. Since it didn't cost much to begin with, reducing it didn't save a lot of money. In May 2025, Trump says "was Musk's DOGE all a hoax?" and the feud begins. Musk realizes that Trump is against increasing taxes for the rich and publicly accuses Trump of having no actual intention of lowering the national debt. This is where we are now.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Both deserve some Piazzale Loreto'ing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Careful, Elon, or you might get another black eye.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, I agree. We should put Trump in a peach and roll him off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Now i have an image of Trump in a peach dress in my head. Thanks for that :/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A flaming peach.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Did the simulation break?

This is so fucking bizzare.

Some truman-show shit to see how we (the non-actors of this world) react.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

The main character of the world was that guy who did dumb shit like shipping coal to newcastle and bed pans to the tropics but was massively successful anyway, all of the rest of us were just NPCs for that one guy and now that he's dead the rest of the universe has no meaning anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Can we have both of these? Please please please?

  • Trump impeached
  • Musk deported
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.

Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

now we are talking

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Who will win this fight?

Everybody!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Let's see if it's real or more kabuki.

If Trump announces cancellation of major contracts with Musk-owned firms, it's probably real. Otherwise, not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

They could just shell company their way out of this. It's all kayfabe.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He spent hundreds of millions to scrape personal data of all US citizens and cripple investigations into his businesses.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

What a absolutely wild timeline we are living in

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Next week headline "musk dead from ketimine overdose, that caused him fall on some bullettes"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Please don't offer me a glimpse of hope. Not in these dark times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yea sure mate, what ever you want! Lol

USA citizens didn't do it, you will? I can only hope.
More spam news from USA nice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol like they are gonna do that. Usa are the most incompetent nation in the world, they just watch as their 'democracy' disintegrates into fascism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

looks around... what democracy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That marriage didn't last long 😂😂😂😂 This is going to be highly entertaining.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn't been a genuine attempt yet. What if it's merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

On the other hand, Vance is a loathsome piece of shit who even the MAGAts don't like much.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't see Vance flags on people's trucks. I see Trump flags. I just don't know that Vance gets the backing Trump does. I think the Rs capitulate to Trump so much because of his rabies base, and there's this concern they'll be replaced by someone who Trump endorses.

I do think it's all a game for wealthy people, and we will just pay for it one way or another, regardless.

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