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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago

Screwed over by the world's richest man?

Yeah, well so was the rest of the nation...

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Paying people to vote a certain way should be one of the worst crimes in a democracy punishable by the harshest of punishments

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

When one of the two biggest black holes for cash on the entire planet promise to make things better for you if you just do this thing they want to happen, you shouldn't be surprised if at the end of the process you have less money and they have more money. Elon Musk is expert at making money move from you to him. So is Jeff Besos. It doesn't have to be direct from you to them via a payment, just know that they are sucking up the money, and if you ever, ever, ever do something they want you to do, you can be 100% sure it's because after they're done, you have less money and they have more.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

That crowd loves grifters and con-men. That Trump crowd acts like peasants just to get close to the proximity of wealth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

"The leopards would never eat my face!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

To all the comments and replies asking Isn't this or that aspect of what he did illegal?: Yes of course, for us it would be illegal, but it doesn't matter. For oligarchs the legality of anything they do is irrelevant. They do whatever they want and get away with it. Sometimes it costs them a small fee, but they don't notice that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

GTFOutta here! Seriously!? I am shocked.

SHOCKED!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope Musk accuses them in court of entrapment. I wanna see the rich moron try to outsmart the poor morons. Everyone will lose, but it'll being some levity to our death-knell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It’s never gonna see a court room, unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Because of course he wouldn't pay up. The man could literally afford to take more money than any one person could ever spend in their life, put it in a pile and set it on fire, and not be any more than a fraction of a percent poorer, but he's still such an unfathomably awful cunt that he just has to stiff people anyway.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 day ago (4 children)

100 dollars? yall sold the usa for 100 dollars?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yall sold the usa for 100 dollars?

Consider that Trump had something like a 47% approval rating on the day of the election.

Also, yes. People are broke af, hate their neighborhood, hate their country, and hate everyone who has governed it since JFK. If someone offered you $100 for a pile of shit, you'd take the deal, too.

The joke of it all is that they believed a career con-artist would pay out, not that they gleefully pawned the broke down jalopy of a nation-state at the first opportunity.

Do not think for a second that they won't try to do it again.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s one democracy, Michael, what could it cost? 100 dollars?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

And didn't even get the money up front.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It goes to show how dumb people are

All you have to do is wave some money around in their face and make promises to them

.... and they'll do whatever you ask them to do .... then when all is said and done, you can just walk away and never give anyone anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then they'll fall for it again in a couple of years 😭

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They would if there were elections again.

But they'll probably just make the enemies list to be silenced sooner than the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

💰 This could be yours!

I believe you owe me some money

No, I checked. Turns out it was mine, not yours.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maurice: 'To my right, heh, to everyone's right in fact, we have congressman Alex Shrub; the youngest state congressman to ever be elected by Vice City and now a respected man in the capital. Mr. Shrub got elected because he has great hair and says things that make you nod your head. His campaign appealed to the wealthy because he set all of us at ease by confirming, "It's okay to be rich, as long as you say you care about the children." Mr. Shrub, welcome!'

Alex: 'That's not entirely true, Maurice. My campaign also appealed to the poor... who were too stupid to understand what I'm saying, so I held up pretty pictures and then I gave out candy bars to appeal to their most base insticts.'

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So the only question really is whether it's more the case that he's not paying because there's a chance that he could be prosecuted for buying votes or if he's not paying just because he's a lying sack of shit who doesn't keep promises.

Or both.

I'm thinking both.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wouldn't offering payment and not paying it also be criminal in someway?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

IANAL, but I don't think so, unless they managed to make a charge of fraud stick, which would require proving that he never had any intention of paying them.

Without something like that, his failure to pay up is a civil matter rather than a criminal one.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Sold your country to a guy Tesla wants to pay 58b a year to so he can tank it for $100 and he doesn’t pay.

Cool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Living by the Christian values of “promise” 😂😂😂

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one has ever become a billionaire by paying people what they’re owed

[–] [email protected] 281 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Sometimes, news is surprising.

This is not one of those times.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The guy whose companies don't pay debts didn't pay debts? Who could have seen this coming?!

Edit: changed from singular to plural.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The guy's not a Lannister. I mean, he probably would fuck his sister, but still...

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@dwazou can't get prosecuted for buying votes if you never pay

[insert smirks and taps forehead meme]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Then it's fraud.

But also, conspiracy to commit.

An act doesn't have to be committed for it to be a crime.

[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Isn't it illegal to pay for voting and to be paid? Or, is it just illegal to pay for votes?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Not if you're among the ultra-rich. Supreme Court has decided that rules are for the poors.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know the former is, but not sure if the recipient is on the hook or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's because he didn't say he will pay them for voting. He said he would pay them to sign a petition that supported a certain candidate. I think that's technically not illegal?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

That's my understanding as well. "Sleezy but not technically illegal" is pretty on-brand for Musk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a lottery of a million dollars or something? Pretty sure that was for votes. What I'm hearing is, he won't be charged or prosecuted for anything, legal or not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah the lottery wasn't actually a lottery because it came out that the winners were already picked. Because apparently you're not allowed to run a lottery whenever you want without asking the government.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-says-1-million-election-giveaway-wasnt-an-illegal-lottery-2025-01-26/

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That seems like "a dog ate my homework" kind of answer to that. So a better headline would be:

Elon Musk committed fraud in rigged lottery at illegal vote persuasion event

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My answer was facetious.

But if he did something illegal and hasn't been prosecuted for it that means it's not illegal?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

But if he did something illegal and hasn’t been prosecuted for it that means it’s not illegal?

Okay, lmao. That's hilarious.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I volunteer as tribute!

HEY CHUMPS! Y'ALL GOT PLAYED BY A CONMAN! MUSK AND TRUMP DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT ANY OF YOU! MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ANY FUTURE ELECTIONS, HUH?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

RICH PEOPLE ARE NOT GENEROUS. IF THEY WERE GENEROUS THEY WOULDN'T BE RICH PEOPLE. THEY ARE THE OPPOSITE OF GENEROUS.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

I know right? Whatever would have given them the idea that he has ever done anything he's promised? All the failed promises with Tesla? The boring company?

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