Tbf the reason why they locked everyone up to elect a new pope is bc one time it took months to do so they made the rule to lock everyone in a room from then on until they selected someone
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Oh man story time, I just went through this yesterday.
I applied for a government job posting. I have 8-years experience in this particular role, and I've trained hundreds of coworkers for the job — I'm a dream applicant. They request in the posting that I read through their department's rubric on their values and cater my cover letter to it (e.g., demonstrate examples of showing service excellence, sound judgment, creative problem solving, yadda yadda yadda). Takes me an hour or two of what feels Iike writing a college thesis.
I get an offer to advance in the interview. I book off an hour of work for the first round of the interview, lying that it was a Doctor's appointment; then, I come to find it was actually a mandatory presentation asking people to not apply for the job unless they "really want it" because it's emotionally difficult. I consider it a waste of MY time.
Second round they offer me to take their '2-hour virtual exam', only offering it during business hours. I lie to my boss again and attend the session. After showing up on time, waiting for the Microsoft teams invite and getting nothing, I email the talent acquisition person: they are out of office.
The following Monday the lady is back in office, emails me, and offers me another virtual exam slot: 4 hours from now, again during work hours, and again requiring me to request time off from my current job.
Wtf? Is there another stage after the exam? An interview? How ridiculous have job searches gotten where we are expected to jump through endless hoops to satisfy prospective employers. Nobody has time to do this for every single frigging job they apply for.
The only circumstances where I'd consider entertaining such ridiculous processes is: 1. If I was unemployed with nothing better to do, or 2. If it was a bonafide fact that the job was excellent (eg, if someone I trusted said it was a good place to work, outlining the benefits and drawbacks of working there).
Otherwise, if I'm working and you're asking for multiple hours of my work day, multiple times for interview things just so I can have a chance at getting the job? No thanks. I'm going to value a paycheque that I'm currently earning over one I could maybe have the opportunity to earn.
But I'm also not new to my chosen career path as a systems administrator (among so many other titles/hats that I wear). Bluntly, if you want me, make me an offer. I'll entertain a normal conversation about what I'm bringing to the table and vice versa, but beyond that, if you're on the fence about whether I'm worthwhile, then I'm in the wind. 🖕
I'll note as well this makes it really obvious to your current employer and co-workers that you are applying for other jobs.
For sure, and even though I know that I have to put myself first I still hate lying and I feel like im being forced to. This is apparently what is expected of us for certain jobs now. It's quite aggravating!
To be fair, the Pope candidates aren't random interested people, I don't pretend to know how it works but there's some long process to get to that point for sure
Legit worked for a place that could never seem to land a new hire because they would take forever to decide on someone and when they finally went "okay" they'd have taken another job in the meantime.
They even went so far as to build a spreadsheet showing the direct correlation of that chronic indecision and it's propensity to miss out on hires and it didn't help.
How did you get a job there?
By not taking any other jobs in the meantime I guess
The quickness of the current pope being selected makes me wonder why it took so damn long last time.
Internal prejudice against Jesuits, if I had to guess.
Depends on if I have the upper hand. market is not great for dev right now.
Plus this is the dumbest meme ever. Ya pope took 2 days to get the job, same with internal transfer hires.
Ha! I like this
Never do free work! Fucking never! If they ask you to do that kind of thing take the amount of time you think it'll take to complete, and take the offered salary for that position to find out how much they need to pay you before hand. No exceptions!!
That's not the best argument, since historically some popes took many years to select. Like, so long it was a major problem and they had to make reforms that included locking the cardinals in a room and taking away everything but bread and water at times.
Good details about the insanity in this Tasting History episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCs9aMkzBQ
All those interviews, and they just end up hiring North Korean tech workers anyway, Give 'em a break man, things are hard enough over there already!
Except that current pope has been working with that org for a number of years and is a known quantity vs. some outside guy you're bringing in from the cold. A nice try at an analogy, but it doesn't quite stack up.
Nah, my place still requires you to apply as to not to be unfair. It still takes weeks.
Except you still don't need 5 rounds of interviews since interviews don't show how hardworking someone is, or even their knowledge. They are a shitty test and a half an hour of conversation. Having more rounds just makes a statememt about your org, which says "we saw how google drills people, we'll do the same, offer shitty pay and expect good quality engineers to appear magically".
I’m a lazy bastard but I’m damn good at interviews. I’ve been hired on as a manager at two different places only for me and them to realize it was a terrible, terrible mistake.
I have the skills, I’m just too damn nice and before you know it everyone I’m “managing” is my buddy and the whole thing falls apart.
I never mean for it to happen, it’s partly just the culture here. Everyone is a close friend after a week deep in Appalachia. That’s just how we roll.
Anyways, bye, love y’all. See ya next comment. Be saaafe!
From my experience it’s usually because management doesn’t want to meet the applicants until person A, B, and C have all individually thought the candidate is worth the upper management team’s time.
Corporations don’t care unless they are regulated to care, but it’s also mixed with some corporations getting lots of flakes for the interviews. A hour wasted of upper management time spent studying up on someone that doesn’t show up for the interview could be a few hundred or a thousand dollars down the drain in “missed productivity”. Still, if they cared about the candidates they would do a team interview, and bring the executive team in right after if they thought the candidate was solid.
Ooh that's a good tip. When my time is disrespected at a job interview, I'll go ahead and book the next round and then ghost them.
If somebody would do that do me I would very likely not show up after the third round because I would think they're crazy. (Am in Austria though so results might differ) But seriously after a second interview I would feel like they are trolling me and chances of me not showing up would be high... Is that really normal in the USA?
I believe the job market dictates some of it. It depends a lot on your company’s structure here in the USA for if this is the standard or not as well. Plus different states have more protections for hired on workers which could further complicate how picky organizations get.
If it’s a mid to large size employer this becomes more common practice to do multiple interviews, I believe.
There could be time conflicts for organizing an interview, such as the need to hire someone during a busy season vs slow season, or when different key decision makers are out on PTO. The company could also be having a difficult time making a final choice between two or more candidates so they are trying to find anything to help weed some of them out. I think that last one is pretty pathetic though since it is wasting everyone’s time if can’t make that determination from the initial interview.
Technology increasing the ability to advertise the position to a wider pool of candidates has accomplished nothing but to make companies paranoid about hiring nobody but the absolute most perfect one worldwide, instead of just picking somebody "good enough" from the smaller local pool of candidates and moving on.
The cardinals didn't have to weed through 1000's of AI generated resumes of people who don't really exist. Lol
I'm thinking if corporations started taking our applications seriously and didn't put up fake offers to abuse quotas then maybe people would also be less inclined to cheat the system by spamming resumes. It won't stop the bots, but it'd lighten the burden on whoever is looking at the candidates because it's real fuckin easy to filter fake resumes.
Sadly, neither side would stop abusing the system in my opinion. Besides, a lot of the resume spammers are doing it as a business for others.
HR and Management justifying their existence
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