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Where's the 1984 text only version?
I seem to recall Apple going through a phase when they put both arrows on both sides of the scrollbar.
I miss visible, usable scroll bars. Now they're replaced with… nothing, because we want everything to be invisible while keeping a lot of empty space in modern designs, it seems.
My favorite is that you can't see if content is actually off screen sometimes. No scrolbar to indicate and often those clean lines just look like the end of the content. Horrible
laughs in Thinkpad
2024.... one pixel wide
And disappears and reappears without rhyme or reason like it's possessed.
I actually like 1988.
It's definitely the superior scroll bar.
2024, scrollbars? What scrollbars? We decided that you don't need them. Sorry but your adblocker and script blocking, broke our own shitty implementation of scrolling. Please enable all scripts for our large ad family to feast on your data.
I really hate sites that change scrolling It always looks weird and uncomfortable. Who thinks this is a good idea?
Search engine optimizers.
If you spend more time on a site, it looks higher value, so they do everything to increase the time you need to find the info you came for.
How can the search engine tell how long you spend on a site?
Because most sites have Google trackers installed.
Bouncebacks. They measure the clock and then the same user’s return to the search page.
Anyone else hate the trend of removing arrow buttons?
What I hate is how in Firefox in Linux I only have these tiny "slim" scrollbars that hide when not in use.
I didn’t notice much since generally don’t have the arrow buttons and I wouldn’t use them. I use arrow keys, pagination keys, home/end key, scroll wheel/motion, drag the bar or click somewhere to jump there. Those buttons were always quite tiny.
But the behavior of my scrollbar looks like this: slides in on use or when the mouse gets moved; gets fatter when hovered
Though hiding stuff sucks indeed.
Edit: You can configure scrollbar to always be visible.
Well I mainly want the big scrollbars back. Even if these shadow scrollbars of 2px width don't auto-hide,I still hate them.
I did find an addon at some point but it seems that it can't override system settings but I can't find where it should be a system setting to use these slim scrollbars.
The scrollbar should double it’s width when you hover it and the hover area is the width of the wider scroll bar with a 6px wide bar and 3px margins on the left and right.
“Always show scrollbars” also constantly gives you the wider scrollbar.
Unless you were already talking about this scrollbar and not the thinner 3px wide one with 1px margin
I'm sure you can disable that behaviour
I just looked and I don't see it.
It might need some CSS tweaking, which is definitely more complex than just a toggle in the settings unfortunately
Someone actually uses those?
Yes.
No.
I hated the trend of flat buttons. Then they removed the buttons. Then they basically removed the entire scrollbar altogether.
At this point, I'd happily go back to the age of flat buttons. That's how bad things have gotten....
I am not a fan of the general trend of de-buttoning.
Like... isn't the entire point to make things consistent and intuitive? Make a clickable button visually distinct!