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WE are Americans. Not MAGA. (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I hope the Boss doesn't get fucked up by the Trump administration (and all that entails) when he gets back home.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Anyone who has to wrap themselves in the flag is compensating for the fact that their politics are distinctly unamerican. MAGAt dipshits cannot tell the signifiers from the thing being signified.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Magats are not american. They are not for liberty.

These are some of the words we were taught in school that represent what being american means

https://www.nps.gov/stli/learn/historyculture/colossus.htm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Born in the USA. The stupid MAGA asswipes think the song is about patriotism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It is about patriotism. It's about how powerful, rich politicians who had everything handed to them uncaringly sent average people to their deaths in an unjust war. Sounds pretty patriotic to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Famously, Trump, a draft dodger, used it during his 2016 election campaign.

Once Springsteen spoke against it and announced support for Clinton, Trump’s own supporters at rallies booed the song.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Toby Keith was a democrat.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh fuck off, he did one song jumping on the rage bandwagon EVERY American at the time was on, dude was a democrat through and through.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I agree with your perspectives but not the “fuck you too” part. I think you should apologize.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

JFC calm the fuck down homie. This is not how people should converse with each other. We want this place to grow and being rude af is not how to make inroads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, when someone puts out incomplete or outright incorrect information it tends to piss people off. Not to say saying Toby Keith being a Democrat was incorrect, but we live in an era where you kind of have to be an open nerve about misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not misinformation though, dude was literally a Democrat and didn't intend for his song to become the marching drums it became.

Edit: dude may have been registered as a Dem but was full fascist since the nineties. My bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Registered as a democrat.

His political leanings were conservative. He heavily supported Bush and also performed for Trump.

Fuck Toby Keith, and yes - a lie of omission is still a lie, no matter how many idiots agree that it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dunno who downvoted you, but I just looked it up and you're completely right. Now I feel bad for how I was going full fan girl when I ran into him IRL.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No worries, people like to blindly support whatever makes their heart feel better. It's easier for people to believe he isn't a piece of shit, so they do.

It's stupid, which is why I call it out as such. Blind devotion to people who would trade you for more personal wealth in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone who suffers from anxiety, I'm always willing to admit I'm wrong when it means I won't be in the future. My aunt was his favorite bartender at a local horse racing track, and he pretty much paid for her house, so I'm definitely a little slanted to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's a very twisted thing about all of this, and it blurs the lines between right and wrong. I'm finally starting to understand why some people will genuinely try to argue that a bigot is actually a good person, the bigot just hasn't ever been adversarial toward them. It's like a mental block, they have to be hit over the head with the information — my cousin's son is not such a good person, but he's happened to do good things for my family so none of them see it. There was a point that I would have argued for him before I'd learned the kinds of things he's done.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you actually had a somewhat personal connection to the man. I can understand your perspective, and I genuinely am sorry if I insulted you. I hope you understand that your experience does preclude your association with the blindly devoted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No apologies needed. You're absolutely right. And finally I don't feel insulted.

When you're right, you're right. I am different from most in that I don't get bothered for admitting I'm wrong. And further more, I appreciate you! Not only for educating me, but not being a prick, like the first dude who I responded to was. I can't tell you how much I appreciate people like you and the cause you successfully help to further.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn dude, you ok? You seem upset

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Well things are kind of bad right now.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Is this post about 2001 or 2025? He voted for Obama and spoke out against Trump. A lot of people were supportive of Bush as a reaction to 9/11, which of course changed over time.

I’m not defending Keith’s actions at that time, just saying that there are plenty of artists that strongly support MAGA, that are also still alive today, who would probably make a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Toby Keith died for his country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Cancer?