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[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Just one more lane bro. I promise bro just one more lane and it'll fix everything bro. Bro, just one more lane. Please just one more, one more lane and we can fix this whole problem bro, bro c’mon just give me one more lane i promise bro, bro bro please! Just need one more lane

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

Thanks for posting source, OP!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

They installed efficiency modules to reduce biter expansion?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's good that you included the source because without a scale this meant fuck all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Thank you. I was about to ask for the same thing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Cars also got more environmental. I'm/!not saying bike lanes are bad. But this might be a bit biased.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If someone draws a conclusion from the facts it could be biased, but this is just merely data. You could say that it is framing a certain set of results, (since it doesn't say anything about how pleasant a trip by car is compared to a trip by bicycle for example), but the collection data seems to done perfectly neutral.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If someone draws a conclusion from the facts

The title is framing the statistics with the implication that bike lanes and car restrictions are the cause.

(Fuck electric cars)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Thank jeebus a few 1000 kilos of steel and (micro)plastic, replaced every year with an even larger pile of resources, is not execactly environmentally friendly

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This graph is HIGHLY misleading as it doesn't include the time in 2019 when Notre Dame's pollution was much higher for a brief period of time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I was confused for a moment.

Click to see the reason why Notre Dame had much higher pollution for brief period of time in 2019.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_fire

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Why not just link the wiki without all the extra fluff?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is the same thing as a graph where the y-axis doesn't start at zero.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Op cut it out for some reason, but it is in the linked article. Here is a screenshot of the 'y-axis':

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 days ago (3 children)

France isn’t perfect or without its own problems (or fucking right-wingers), but damn overall they’re really crushing it lately.

(I wonder how hard it is to emigrate to France…)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It depends : are you white ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Does that actually make it easy, or just less hard?

(Je l'envisage sérieusement, d'ailleurs.)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

Makes it harder

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

is that bread or masochism?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Worst thing about this is that pollution is still pretty bad in Paris, they've come pretty far but there's still a lot of progress to be made there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The red areas doesn't indicate temperature .... it indicates thrown away cigarette butts

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

c'est magnifique.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That sounds nice but oof 4% turnout.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah that is very low, but i don’t know what is normal in those elections.

[–] [email protected] 155 points 5 days ago (10 children)

"It turns out not burning a bunch of fossil fuels leads to less pollution"... news at 11.

The really dumb part of all of this is that people have just accepted cars as the default mode of transportation for so long that it's hard to even envision a world without them. They're normal, despite being expensive, dangerous, horribly inefficient, killing people actively (crashes) and passively (air pollution, plastic in our lungs, parkinsons/dementia, obesity, and more), and directly contributing to isolation in our communities. Every car we can get off the road, especially in our cities, makes the world a better place.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

people have just accepted cars as the default mode of transportation

That wasn't an accident and it didn't just 'happen;' it was the very deliberate result of a combination of automobile and oil industry propaganda and US government policy back in the 1930s-1950s, motivated by several factors ranging from utopian modernist city planning to good ol'fashioned racism.

Some random sources to get folks started:

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

The crazy thing as well is that especially after COVID people will use the isolation of cars as a positive. You have people who don't like transit cause they would have to be near other people. Which just shows how crazy isolated and disconnected from our communities we are in the US atleast.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I'll definitely have to check out the underpinnings and use of that term. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

After I've moved I could technically do everything using public transport and bikes

The issue is that public transport is literally more expensive than a private car for me in the Netherlands (as I get a company car)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Perhaps ask the company to reimburse you for the transit costs rather than providing the car? I'm sure they would love to save the money, and let you continue to save the money the car was saving you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even with a privately owned car, driving somewhere is often still cheaper than public transport here. Including when factoring in maintenance. The only thing that might offset it when driving alone is parking costs.

Every time my wife and me want to visit a city I look at train tickets as it would be convenient to just get off the station in the city centre, only for me to realise that I’m way better off just driving there, and then use buses/metro to get around the city itself.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I have an OV pass to use public transport for work but I get to use my car privately for free (outside of extra taxes) and not the OV pass

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That just sounds like a policy revision away from being fixed. Have you asked?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, "you get to keep the car, I get unlimited travel pass, deal?" People often seem to think policies are iron clad, but they're just decisions.

Might be hard because the car is a significant upfront investment. The sunk cost is another big reason people defend their cars.

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