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So slavery as indentured servitude is the American future. Way to "new model" the old model.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Yeah you and your kids and their kids... All slaving away in poor conditions, at the same time.

No retirement for the old. Child labor. Shitty conditions with zero worker protections. Low pay to keep you in poverty. All while the rich sit on their lazy fat asses like the parasites they are...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I hope he gets what he deserves.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember Luigi, Super Mario Brothers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The children yearn for the ~~mines~~factories.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The factory jobs that existed in post-war America would be a vast improvement over the current service economy, but those jobs don’t exist anymore. Union jobs with high pay, benefits, retirement after 20 years, etc. Those are not the factory jobs they’re looking to create.

Factories are mostly automated now anyway. Rebuilding US manufacturing will not only take years but it will be done in a way that minimizes the actual jobs created. They’ll also still have to compete with factories all over the world where the currency is worth much less and the global price of the end product reflects that.

Post-war America had a strong domestic market and middle class that could afford to buy all the things American manufacturing built. Americans are now buying groceries on layaway and waiting for the sickness or car trouble or new Trump policy that makes them homeless.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The reality is that the job is kind of irrelevant. We had a manufacturing economy then, and a service based economy now, but the real difference between today and back then were wage strength and social parity. Of course pensions existed too, but still.

Back in the day one man could make enough to support a family on a relatively entry level skill level income. Today one person can hardly afford rent by themselves anywhere in the US for the same skill level of work.

Instead of paying people any more than absolutely necessary, we pay shareholders. No pensions, let alone benefits for a lot of people.

We need taxes on the wealthy and higher wages, if not legally mandatory profit sharing schemes for all businesses

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And those jobs weren't good because they were in a factory, they were good because they were union.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Still, safety standards were far from ideal at that time

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Factory jobs used to consist of one person being able to move about and do various jobs. I may be misremembering, but I believe it was Ford (who was not exactly a great person, go search) who stuck each individual in one place doing one minute part of an overall job. Having worked in a couple of factories, one of which was very well paid, it was mind- crushingly boring. And 1/2 hour meals with coworkers was sniping and backbiting other coworkers. I liked repairs better because it was variable, and I got to go to storage and look for things so I could move away from my station.

QA was probably the most soul-crushing, except for that one factory, that didn't pay well, had everyone on mandatory 7 days, 8+ for about two months at the time my supervisor tried to write me up for being absent the days with the flu, with a doctor's note. I walked off the job that day and was hired at a nearby competitor the next day, and given a start bonus, told to come in the following Monday. I loved that super, the pay was great, but it still was not great.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Want more than 2 minutes to poop? You're fired!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

They say factory jobs but really they mean mining/oil towns, where everything is controlled by the mining/oil companies that still exists in some parts of Africa and Latin America.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago

That’s rich coming from a group of people who haven’t collectively worked a single day in their lives.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago

They'll enslave every last person on the planet if you let them. You have to fight back, or that's your future. That's everyone's future.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

The ones where Big Brother will torture and kill you for refusing

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

The ones that he also said will all be automated.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How bout that American Dream? How bout that upward mobility? Fuck you, Howard Buttlick.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

That shit died, or suffered a major blow under Reagan. It's only been downhill since. I'm old enough to remember the yearly increases to the federal minimum wage before they stopped all that at like $7.25. I think my first job paid $6.40. Every time this dude is on TV he's grinning like some doofus or laughing too hard from the lukewarm farts leaking from trump's mouth.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Cool. You go first, asshole. >:(

(Not you, OP, you're cool.)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Well, we do not know. OP may actually be the new secretary of commerce.

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