i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn't connect it to the internet
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I'm gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.
i can't wait to pirate their new switch 2 games ๐ฅฐ its gonna be awesome.
So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn't available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.
After(poorly) doing it, I wasn't able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.
So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.
Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won't allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.
They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.
So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too "secure" or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.
Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You'll find duct tape on all the latches.
Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You're going to find post-its under keyboards.
Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.
Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They'll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.
Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.
When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.
Meet your customers where they're at!
Doesn't Xbox let you change your console's region in the settings?
i have an account on my ps4 (and ps5) that i log into and suddenly i'm in a different region. the ps5 says i only get so many region changes, but i can log into the accounts as many times as i want
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I've been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I'm not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.
Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They're really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.
At this point I'm surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.
Don't give them any ideas
Wait, it doesn't appear to be the same within the EU.
Both the French and German EULA seems to say that if you alter a digital product, the digital product might be rendered unusable. Although my French and German is bad, so someone please double check.
At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn't seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.
It's a nice thought, at least.
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or alternatively communicated: โYou will own nothing and you will be happyโ
Canโt wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.
Apparently Torzo exists already!
Also knowing how butthurt Nintendo is rn it probably means Switch 2 is vulnerable to emulation so not that long probably.
I know it should have been earlier, but that really is the last straw for buying Nintendo products for me.
what a shame.
I don't seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.
youre not the exploitable target audience.
like legit 100% evil intent, cant even argue against that
The target audience still goes online. Generally Facebook and mumsnet. Wait til it happens to one of them and the stories go round like wildfire.
With that market, especially at big luxury prices like a console, you exist solely on good faith.
you dont see the whole "children of rich western parents really dont care" audience?
They won't give the first shit about piracy policies or anything like that, but they'll care that MummyD123s DH bought their DD an electric brick that won't keep them quiet any more.
why would it brick
Do you not realize what thread you're commenting in?
what nintendo child will do that is my question, the third time.
idk if im missing something or you all repeat the same bit in hopes of something...
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As part of a severe response to unauthorised use
same comment of mine here: what nintendo child will do that is my question
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Because it's not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.
This is the part that really frustrates me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.
Can the Switch itself even be hacked to run pirated stuff? I honestly never looked since emulation of it came fairly quick. Bricking the Switch won't stop anyone emulating on a PC lol
The very first model of the Switch can be soft-modded. Later revisions require a modchip.
I donโt see how this is different from any other company. Xbox has forever done the same. Iโm pretty sure Sony has too
Hilarious that this comment is so far down, Lemmy can be such a circlejerk.
Sony and Xbox absolutely reserve the right to brick your console. IIRC Sony bricks stolen Playstation consoles if they ever connect to the internet. This is nothing new.
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Microsoft and Sony don't brick your console if you hacked it; they'll ban you from online services and possibly deny any warranty claims if you bricked it yourself by mistake, but they don't make your device a paper weight.
Sony may not do it, the same way Nintendo might not do it either, but both reserve the right to do so
Edit: If you take a look at the PLAYSTATIONยฎ5 SYSTEM SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT under "6. VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT; TERMINATION OF RIGHTS AND SIE INC REMEDIES", one of the possible actions they may take states:
disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline
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Ah. So now we're merely 'licensing' physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?
You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.
Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.
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Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet/run updates in order to dump their games or play pirated copies or whatever they wanna do! That'll stop them!
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This seems to be more about their online account services and their updated privacy policy than anything else, but I still think my point stands, just not for this article.
The problem is when a new game is released that requires an update to a later firmware version.
I think Iโve had it before where the updates applied to the system from the game card.
Unless I misunderstood what was happening. We will have to wait for someone to figure that out.
Iโm rooting for someone to home brew the switch 2 ASAP
Firmware is dumped almost immediately as well, not a big deal to update a switch offline.
You'll probably have a while to wait.
The Switch 1 was able to run homebrew due to a hardware exploit in the CPU which allowed injection of arbitrary code. The interesting thing about that vulnerability being that since it was a hardware vulnerability, it couldn't be patched out even after it was discovered.
Following that incident, I'm sure Nintendo has been working especially hard to ensure there are no similar vulnerabilities existing on the Switch 2.
That said, console hackers are an amazingly creative and talented bunch, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything.
You could have said that about every Nintendo console since the NES, yet here we are.
Hard to say. Consoles have certainly gotten more sercure and people finding vulnerabilities are far less likely to just give them out for free these days
But there is incentive to hack any console and nintendo has historically attracted the biggest dorks. Additionally they also seem to historically make pretty huge blunders, though the switch exploit was nvidias fault tbf
Iโm pretty sure all Nintendo consoles have had a problem with being hacked. As far back as the Wii, people were able to run hombrew pretty quickly.
I think Nintendo just sucks at console security or maybe they are a bigger target due to their exclusives.
