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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reminder: the republicans in your life should be ostracized. For starters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have not spoken with my father in 6 months. I spent the previous 10 years, since I moved back to my home town, trying to bring him back from the crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It is always easier to destroy than to build, or to protect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I said similar on another article like this, but I worry the kind of people who need to know this won't read it. They'll just dismiss it because "cnn is woke" or "they just don't like trump" (which reminds me of the "missing missing reasons" post about estranged parents, incidentally)

But maybe a few fence sitters or accidentally-low-information types will read this and realize trump is not the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

And there's no chance of ever getting pre-Trump America back. You guys voted for this. Twice.

Actions have consequences, and you're in the "found out" phase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no non-Trump America. He will never leave now.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

From barbarism to civilization requires a century; from civilization to barbarism needs but a day.

Will Durant 1885-1981. American writer, historian, and philosopher.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What’s lost can’t be restored any time soon. Pretending constitution and democracy can still come back in our life time is just self delusion and waste of everyone’s time.

[–] [email protected] 125 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

He's not "trying to undo" it. He's largely already undone it.

He has done permanent and irreversable damage to our relationships with our allies around the world. Countries like Denmark and Canada now have to look at us as potential adversaries as we repeatedly threaten to use military force to annex their territories.

He has obliterated our ability to maintain strong political and economic ties. Sure, with every administration comes tweaks to various foreign and economic policies, but American policies in general have been considered stable and reliable over the long term. Countries now believe, and have every right to believe, anything the US says only has a shelf life of 4 years before the next administration comes in and flips the table on a whim, and that anything Trump says only has a shelf life of until he has a conversation with someone else and randomly changes his mind. Businesses and governments can't be expected to function under those conditions, and it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar and that the US can once again be trusted in the long term. That's assuming we ever get that trust back.

Even domestically, how many collective centuries of experience has been purged from federal government operations as a result of Trump's mass firings? Even if these agencies were re-opened and fully re-staffed tomorrow, how long would it take them to wind things back up and get back up to full strength? If they're re-instated after the Trump administration, how much damage would be caused in the interim, and how many years or even decades will it take to fix it? How much data that these agencies relied on has already been permanently lost?

How many years of scientific research has already been destroyed as time-sensitive experiments and studies get cancelled due to de-funding? Again, even if these institutions would be able to restart work tomorrow, how many experiments have already been invalidated in the interim? How many years are we now going to be behind in scientific research?

Same goes with vaccinations. Environmental damage. Race relations. The list goes on and on and on. What he has already destroyed in four months will likely take four decades to repair.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly you couldn't have been more on the nose. Trump has harmed the world in deep and foundational ways. Mostly involving trust and good will

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar

The fun part is we don't have decades. We're already at +1.7C. Insurance actuaries are predicting ~~4~~ 2 billion deaths worldwide at +2C. We will literally never recover from Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They shut of the systems that kept research cell lines alive and viable. Those cell lines are gone. There is no replacement. Knowing this, in retrospect we should have have cell lines located in many locations, not just one. I can't stand it. This is 'crimes against humanity' level of action by this administration.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lmao. Why do people still think the US in its pre Trump form was this great achievement? There was never anything unique or exceptional about the US. Trump was inevitable specifically because of how flawed the US is and was. The american people has never been interested in participating in democracy, it was always run by frauds and it was just a matter of time until someone figured out how to abuse that situation for something other than the typical shit that corporations have been abusing it for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wrong. There was one thing truly exceptional about the USA: the best propaganda the world had ever seen. Certainly the most effective.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It was always crazy to me when i met refugees who made it to Europe, that dreamed of eventually going to the US. This stupid myth that you can get stable work or even rich if you just work hard in the US has been believed for way too long.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

No shit. So many of us have been saying this for well over a decade

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's weird that a lot of people don't see this. They'll say "Oh, Trump is doing this thing because he likes this group" or whatever but it's really that he's doing the thing because he thinks it will benefit him in some way, usually monetarily.

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