If anything, this is more how money corrupts tech folks.
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I feel like all the people who were into tech to improve people's lives did that and got bought out by people who then went on to try and make money off of it.
Oh I am still at the 2014 phase.
We... used to have a term for people that advanced further: sell-outs.
Though I do very much prefer the recently popularized Cyberpunk lingo:
Fucking Corpo Scum.
Sorry, but I feel 2014 should be replaced with 1980, 2018 should be replaced with 2000... Maybe 1990. But the whole monetisation thing started loooonngg before 2025.
Bad meme. Implies "information wants to be free" leads to "have you considered monetizing empathy?"
I disagree. It’s not “one leads to the other,” it’s that people change. Far too often people start out, not just in tech, bucking the system in some way. Anti-authority, pro-privacy, anti-centralized control, etc.
But when the server costs start mounting for a service that gets popular and money needs to come in, people change. Now you need to monetize via ads or whatever, now you get attacked, you circle the wagons, get investors, and it’s all downhill from there.
Digg and Reddit are big examples, Google could arguably be a similar case, it happens in music too where a band “sells out”, like Metallica for example. An originally anti-authority metal band starts lawsuits and banning fans to protect profits.
Sure there are plenty of situations where services remain open and free (for now), like wikipedia, linux distros, etc. but we aren’t always that lucky.
yeah, the “information wants to be free” and the other two are completely different people….
it’s more like, 3 different kinds of tech people:
also, i’m going to call this “tech-bro” thing sexism… women are awesome in tech and the field can be very exclusionary… just because society has been keeping women out of tech, doesn’t mean you can just assume they’re all bros….
also check out unixsocks… they’re definitely not bros….
"Techbro" is a specific name for a subsection of the tech population who have become complete douche canoes (much like the middle and right people in the image). The crypto/AI/whatever people. These people are mostly male.
All kinds of awesome people work in tech, but they are not considered "tech bro", just cool tech people.
Tech-Bro is an almost exclusively male subsection of people in Tech, who think that A. Tech solves everything B. As people doing Tech, they know everything C. Any non-tech attempt at solving something is bad.
This isn't a sexist term.
I could be wrong, but I think "tech-bro" as a term isn't meant to apply to everyone in tech. It's mean to capture the intersection of tech people and "bros" -- the kind of guy who likes football or something.
Of course that's just what it's meant to be; if people use it for all men in tech then yeah it just becomes a sexist and luddite terminology.
I've heard that "argument" about a lot of slurs. Do you think any non-tech person is involved or interested enough to make any difference between the good tech-males and the bad tech-bros? Besides, why would there be a problem with a guy who likes football?
BTW. Men are not the victims of that slur. The subtext is that good girls don't do tech. Or if they do, they at least don't make waves. They don't invent things, become rich tech CEOs, or anything else that someone might find objectionable. They can become artists and make pretty things, or authors and write about their feelings; that sort of thing. You know, girl stuff.
I work with these fucking yuppies every day and I hate them so fucking much.
Ai slop
This kinda follows the same pipeline that everyone else went down on Facebook and Twitter. At one point, the internet was all about Anonymous and Zeitgeist and revolution.
Then one Arab Spring and a couple of years later, we all went from Anonymous and Zeitgeist to thinking that billionaires and businessmen are the answers to all of our problems.
I don't know that it was ever as much like that--I think the earlier adopters of those technologies were more like that, and as the general public gained interest and increased usage, the trend swung the other way. Remember in 2005 when owning a mac device basically initiated you into a cult? Apple stores were set up like sanctuaries where people came to worship.
That's a good point. The big shift probably also coincides with more of the masses getting online. Back in 2005 I was a Symbian user and we used to laugh at the Apple people paying crazy premium prices for 'smart' phones that couldn't even multitask.
I feel like most of tech had already sold out by 2014. Really by the late aughts it seemed to be all gone; that was when apple and its philosophy had taken hold. Not that apple was the only force in that direction, it just felt like the apotheosis of the greedy and controlling mentality. MS had plenty of greed, but they were willing (in some circumstances) to play ball. Google seemed to love interoperability in the early-to-mid aughts, but look at it now.
Even by the 90's, it was already accepted that being good with computers could be a great career path to make money. When I went to university in early 00's, people who were on an engineering track commonly went into computers because the salaries were better than other engineering fields.
There were some people who loved the tech, but a lot of them made the choice due to financial reasons.
Money .... it's always about the money and power
I'm sure there are tech bros out there that we will never hear about or see or know about .... those are the ones who just want to do tech stuff and not care about anything else
The ones we do hear about who become billionaires were only ever in it for the money and power
"Tech Bro" as a term though does pretty much imply insufferable nouveaux-riche douchbags devoid of any genuine emotion, who are happy to squash human dignity on an industrial scale for profit, and think themselves cool for doing it.
If someone is into tech for the true sake of technology then by definition they aren't a "tech bro" - they are a programmer, a hacker, a hardware tinkerer, an open-source evangelist, or any number of cool things that don't involve being an huge dickhead :)
It's really just about power, but money is one of the best ways to obtain it.
"I want to change the world with this tech"
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"3 billion you say? The company is yours!"
Honestly selling the company is understandable. Getting out is normal.
It's the ones that turn into sociopaths that bother me.
I mean a lot of us talk big game but I’m sure many of us would sell out for a 9 figure acquisition. Hell for 7.
Nah, precisely because we would cash out and settle for peaceful lives long before we'd become billionaires or even millionaires. It takes a certain type of person to begin earning millions and conclude "that's not nearly enough, I need this times a thousand". None of them are "good" people.
You don't usually just "begin earning millions", some businesses snowball to billion-dollar size quite quickly. Instagram had only a few dozen employees before being sold to Facebook for billions.
It happens, especially in tech, but I'd say it's still the exception to the norm.
7 figures??? That's not selling out, that's just trying to get anything for a sinking ship if you sell for a million. Thats barely covering salary+expenses for 2-5 engineers depending on level and location.
I’m talking about taking a seven figure personal payout to walk away from my company and let some asshole handle it
How many here are working for these tech bros or putting money on their companies?
The company I work for isn't amazing and our most recent CEO is human garbage. I've got medical stuff I had to pay for and need the funds to get out of country. Doing my best to be a net drain though by working as slowly and poorly as I can without being fired and I don't buy into tech stock (or most any stock for that matter). Idk if what I'm doing is as ethical as it could be but I'm doing my best to not support unhinged tech bros despite being in tech
We have a ton of developers on lemmy. It is entirely possible one of them will face this dilemma one day.
Its ai generated sir but it kinda checks out.
Ironically brought to you by the same tech bros it's dissing.
Probably not a techbro, but it's ironic nonetheless.
Am I stupid? Idk what the hell this is trying to say
It's not something that's unique to tech, but I read it as a joke about enshittification due to greed.
Lots of start-up companies start out all idealistic and positive, then don't stay true to that mission as the founders age and want more (or sell out to a bigger company).
Also as an aside, if stock points cripples your integrity then you never had any to begin with
I honestly think delusion is a core component of startup culture. There's this energy of overly sincere rich kids who think they can make the world a better place by perpetuating a system of exploitation
It's kinda tragic really
I do envy their ability to take such big risks though (often because they have money to fall back on, I assume).
I've never been in a position to take a risk like that without jeopardizing my (and now my family's) future.
Oh yeah there's definitely a joy to it. I think doing crazy things when your young and inspired is core experience in life. It's a shame most people are in your position and can't rely on the support of their community to fall back on if the risk fails
The feeling of power that being in the technology sector brings changes a man.
IDK what this meme is trying to say. Its making some leaps.
Tech bruh