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I just want a car that doesn't spy on me
How does the apocalypse make evs future proof?
Well, it'd probably fuck up new car manufacturing, and if you could keep it charged, perhaps with some kind of solar array, you wouldn't have quite the same difficulties as petrol
Nobody will ever make a better car because the world has ended?
You're acting like I can afford a gas car and I'm not planning on ending it all once my rust bucket won't start anymore
Looking at the Scout vehicles... which, technically speaking, don't quite exist yet. :(
There are 2 prototypes, truck and SUV, but the factory to make more is still being built. Hope is 2027/2028?
With a gas powered generator, it will in theory have a 500 mile range.
Actually, Scout vehicles do exist. I have one. It was made in 1967.
Yeah, the OG Scouts, the new ones will be electric.
Yup, and wasn't the brand bought by VW? Mine was made by International Harvester. So not really that closely related, except maybe for body shape.
Yup, they bought IH and Scout came with it.
I have a long commute, and there is no charging infrastructure around. I'm still getting an average of 48 mpg (20 km/l) on my 2018 sedan. It makes no sense for me to change now, but I've got a feeling my next car will be fully EV.
Obviously drive your current car as long as you can, but modern (last 4 years or so) have gotten to 300+ mile range, a 150mi commute would be wild
Oh yeah, the commute excludes hybrids, not full EVs. Back when I got this car, EVs ere prohibitively expensive, so i considered a hybrid, buy that was a non starter because I'd end up using the same amount of fuel.
You should always drive an ICE car as long as you can. Or at least sell it to someone who doesn't just dismantle it for parts.
I don't think I could ever go back to a gas-powered vehicle now, simply because it's too convenient to just plug my car in at home. For trips, yes, it's slightly less convenient to charge it than it is to fill up a gas vehicle, but it's not like it can't make the trips in a similar amount of time, regardless.
It's towing that is the achilles heel of electric vehicles, you can cut your range to less than half with a combination of a trailer and stuff on the roof.
Very few people actually ever tow anything (and I say that as someone who regularly does tow things). But even then, I can keep our ice pickup and replace our car that we drive every day with an ev.
We won't, though, because the current situation in the US means us taking on new debt would be dumb.
Well, statistically, you don't actually...
I'm not owning two vehicles just so I can have an EV.
I take transit wherever possible, and we're down to being a one car house, but that car will always be an ev now. It's so much more convenient, and no gas stations ever. I don't know why people are so loyal to a fuel
My favorite places that I've lived all had transit that was so convenient that I didn't even own a car. Unfortunately, today I live in a place where there is zero mass transit near my house.
I mean.... it depends on your requirements. The charge time is most of the time the dealbreaker, because humans are lazy, with an EV you can not just go "oh i forgot to fuel up, lets go to the next gas station and fill it up in seconds" rather "Oh i forgot to plug in my EV after a long drive, guess i will have to wait some hours".
But still EVs can take you far and it gotten pretty far in the technology, but i guess the battery still holds personally me off buying one.
<<“Oh i forgot to plug in my EV after a long drive, guess i will have to wait some hours”.
On a lot of models its like 20 minutes to charge up to 80% and typically by businesses where I can grab groceries/food/coffee. Charging tech got good a few years ago.
The only thing I'm still leery of is long trips to national parks since something like Yellowstone has limited charging nearby. It exists, but probably more EVs looking to charge than available spots.
You brought up another point: For longer trips charging stations is not easy to find ( definitly not in my region ).
Really depends on the region. People have done plenty of cross country trips with them, but yeah if you’re out west or Midwest there are plenty of areas where you’ve got 60+ miles between chargers.
Like I CAN plan a trip around the stops, but I’ll stick to gas for long trips until you no longer have to.
If you have a garage at home, this is a moot point. 98% of driving is not long trips, and the vast majority of homes are 2 car households. It makes sense that one of them should be an EV
I don't drive my own vehicle to work, it's only used on weekends and holidays, so closer to 50% of the driving I do is long trips.
Installing the charging equipment is also a cost consideration.
If you only drive on weekends and holidays, level 1 charging is actually good enough. The cost of a level 2 charger is pretty insignificant to the price of a car, but every bit helps.
Why I said two car households are great for it. One of them can be gas. The other one can be EV. That's what I do, we have the EV for the 98% of driving we do in the city, groceries, errands, commuting, whatever. Never buy any gas for that, charge it when we get home. Have the gas car for long trips. We have yet to come across a time of when that wouldn't have worked in our family
For me, the problem is that I live in a condo, and don't have the ability to even slow charge at home. If sitting at a charging station was something I only ever had to do when going on a road trip, I'd likely already have an electric car.
I haven't bought an EV yet myself because I'm not buying a new car until my current one kicks the bucket, but don't they have that "quick charge" feature similar to phones where if the battery is low it can get to "good enough to get you to work and back" in like 5 minutes?
I just can't wait to not have to worry about oil changes or "odd engine sounds" anymore lol
But you will have to worry about your battery. It will depend on usage, "fast" charging etc... but it will not last as a "normal" car does. So you will have to replace it or dump the car. ( most people just dump it as its cheaper to buy new )
That would rely on having the right charger, and I suspect they will be rare, because that's a massive amount of power to deliver, and getting that much power to the site would be difficult.
Instead of oil changes you'll have coolant changes. I have.
Taking a quick look it looks like these coolant changes are between 50k and 100k or every 5-10 years, that's still LOADS better than every 6-10k miles or every couple of months lol
Mine's every 30.000 km, or every two years. Which is the same as oil changes in my previous car.
Depends on the charger. Technology Connections has a good video about it. The 15 minute figure is for a best case scenario going from 20 to 75%, if I'm not mistaken. More likely you'll wait something closer to 40-90 minutes, depending on many cars are charging at the same time, etc etc.
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