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And people still buy Apple products?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Only Pro models support reasonable speeds for USB-C, up to 10Gbps. Regular iPhones are capped at USB 2.0 rates, up to 480Mbps, which is no faster than Lightning. With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds -- with a vanilla iPhone 16, you're going to be waiting over 16 minutes.

10Gbps is about 20x more than 480Mbs but 8secs times 20 is 160secs which is a lot less than 16minutes so what is going on with this calculation?

With an iPhone 16 Pro, a 1GB file transfer can take 8 seconds

1GB / 10Gbps = 1GB / 1.25GBps = 0.8secs

with a vanilla iPhone 16, you're going to be waiting over 16 minutes.

1GB / 480Mbps = 1GB / 0.48Gbps = 1GB / 0.06GBps = 16.67secs

Wow what a great article, well done.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

Only off by a few orders of 10^x.

Typical shit journalism can't be bothered to look at the units on their calculator.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for showing the math

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

Thank God I abandoned Apple a long time ago

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

People discuss this as if they connected their phones to their computers more than once in the past 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Ppl dont back up to local hd?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I use ghost commander to backup to the NAS. No wires.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh i see. How's the transfer speed?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

They let iCloud do the thing. Their computers don’t have that much storage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Meanwhile me sitting with 4tb on my laptop and 5gb on icloud because fuck paying for cloud storage

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I backup to my computer. It actually has more storage than iCloud and I don’t trust any cloud with my private data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I’m sure we’ll find much evidence for hobbyists on Lemmy having different use cases from the general public but Apple wasn’t ever interested in supporting that niche at budget prices because there’s little money to be made there.

Regular person doesn’t need much offline storage because they download apps from the App Store, listen to music from a streaming service and sync photos to iCloud or Google Photos. Those people probably shouldn’t store their data offline either way because they won’t back it up properly. It’s another case of Apple treating general public like incompetent grannies but they’re kind of right about that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Wired screen mirroring would be a nice use case. E.g. just plug the iphone in a USB dock and watch a movie or join a meeting.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This works already on Pro and non pro models.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Thank you. It appears that even the USB-2.0 models support video output.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 weeks ago

Pro models have USB 3 or 4 Non pro iOS devices have USB2

Not confusing… but I guess this is enough for an article

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

And people still buy Apple products?

Of course they do. They blame the EU for forcing Apple to go with Usb c, because Apple had no time to adapt to it

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

iPhones and iPads may be trash but macOS is still certified UNIX and the Apple silicon M1-M4 are honestly game changers in PC CPU design.

I would never buy an iPhone or an iPad.

I would definitely, on the other hand, pay some good money for a high end mac. I just simply don't have that kind of money to throw around. But if I did, I would.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hardware wise I really like the macbooks, but MacOS is certified trash. So many traps and hooks if you want to leave the golden path Apple has laid out for you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

Ey, it's not that bad. I've been using it for over a decade, never made an Apple account (so no appstore apps) and I never use any of the built-in apps (except for super basic stuff like the calculator or preview).

Still beats windows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

Still beats windows.

No argument there

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Take any usb-c charger, plug it in and it will charge. We just covered 90% of use cases.

Beyond that:

old phone: slow data transfer.

new phone: faster data transfer but still slower then computer.

So very confusing.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not old vs new phones. Anything not Pro is 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

480Mbps ought to be enough for anybody.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Except for <list all usecases that emerged since 2015 or so>

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm just joking - it was a reference to the famous Bill Gates quote (that he didn't actually say) about 640k of RAM being enough.

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