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[–] [email protected] 4 points 28 minutes ago

As long as we put him in it I'm fine with that

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

I'm tired of just seeing random Trump ideas without any kind of deeper thought or plan behind it. Alcatraz hasn't housed a prisoner for a long time. Needless to say, it'd cost a lot of money to get it back up in action. Is this money worth spending? How much is it? What's wrong with our other supermax prisons in the USA?

It's embarrassing this guy can just throw out these off the cuff ideas and STILL finds fans in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago

He's fucking demented. Like literally and medically.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Alcatraz was originally closed because it was extraordinarily expensive to run and it wasn't very useful given the alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

"you had me at extraordinarily expensive" DJT

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

"Can't stop, won't stop"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Fucking LOL. He obviously has never been there.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Someone go jingle your keys in front of the orange dunce...

He must have saw something on arcatraz lately and his stupid addled brain got stuck on it. Good god I hate this timeline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

arcatraz

Found the WoW nerd

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He probably saw part of "The Rock" while flipping through the channels.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

I bet he thinks of himself when the "winners go home and fuck the prom queen" line comes up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

Are we going to send VX gas?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess they played The Rock at the whitehouse recently?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

The greatest movie, in the history of all movies! The best. American made.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

This is like something an uninformed kid would say. “Ooh! A scary-sounding prison on an island! Yeah, let’s fix that up and use it for real!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

Paxton, don't argue!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Moron cunt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

For his political enemies?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Things that won't happen.

The salt from the ocean has corroded the bars, a good kick likely would open the windows. To secure the place would take years of rework or just outright tear down and rebuild.

The place hasn't had proper upkeep since the late 1960s and honestly very likely before then too. It wouldn't serve to secure anyone that various places out in the Midwestern desert regions wouldn't do multiple times better.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Also, you can't build prisons on national parks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago

Why? Cause it is against the law?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Alcatraz is a derelict. Getting it up to a functioning prison standard would almost assuredly take knocking it down with heavy equipment and starting over from zero. You could probably, unironically, finish high speed rail for the same time and financial cost, but then you couldn't try to impress people by showing everyone that you're the world's only banana republic dictator with no drip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're assuming Trump cares if it's up to code. He doesn't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

I'm not sure if you took my meaning. Alcatraz is inoperable. If we moved to cars as a metaphor, we're not talking about "it can't pass smog", we're talking about "Boomer's fixer upper that's been untouched in the front yard for thirty years and is basically unusable as even scrap metal".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

Make rail drip again

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The strength of the bars was never Alcatraz's selling point. It's the location.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

This is still about the location, but not in the way you’d expect. It’s near Hollywood so movies were made about it and it’s the next most notorious American prison after Guantanamo that Trump has heard of. I guarantee this is his Plan B after Guantanamo didn’t work out.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You think they won't give out a contract worth tens of millions to update a math balled prison to someone they know?

This is America.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

millions

B

I think your "b" broke and fell over backwards, but I brought you a new one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago

Pretty sure that’s the entire point of this whole thing. Give an insanely overbid contract to someone who will then launder back a sizable portion of it in campaign donations or crypto meme coin purchases. Continue grift until the money runs out.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone needs to stop reporting on anything he just says. Instead, the media should exclusively focus on what he actually does. Did he issue any executive order about it? Did he instruct congress to do anything anything about it? No? Then I don't give a shit, and neither should anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'd rather fight back before he actually takes the action.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

So how are you fighting back against this action, specifically?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

But 95% of the time he doesn't take any action on what he says.
Then he actually does take action on things he never said anything about.

If you fight back against everything he says, you'll exhaust yourself on so many things that don't matter; You'll completely miss many things that do. Which is in fact the strategy.

For example his personal crypto tokens. He never said anything about making his own tokens to launder bribes through. Then suddenly surprised everyone announcing a new company and tokens. If anyone in the world buys $25M worth, they'll get a private sit down dinner to discuss whatever they want. That blatant clear corruption is important. And bullshit this is just a distraction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If you fight back poorly, yeah

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Then I think we have different ideas of what "Fight Back" means, and are talking past each other.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And which private jail company is he going to immediately sell it to?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

jail companies are such a fucked up concept…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Without a doubt, they are - but we also know that everything this guy does is to benefit a company one of his patrons owns.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

absolutely…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's a national park. Doesn't Congress have to allocate and remove national parks?

kagis

https://www.nps.gov/alca/learn/index.htm

Golden Gate National Recreation Area, which includes Alcatraz Island, was established by Congress in 1972.

Well, they allocated it, at any rate.

EDIT: It sounds like they disbanded this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Hill_National_Game_Preserve

In 1904, Congress authorized a memorial park at the site, and President Theodore Roosevelt established it as Sullys Hill Park. Though not part of its official name, it would be called Sullys Hill National Park, the meaning of "national park" not yet standardized, as this site's small size and lack of a significant landmark was inconsistent with other national parks.[1] It was first named after General Alfred Sully,[2] son of the painter Thomas Sully who gained his reputation by carrying out several massacres of Dakota including at the Battle of Whitestone Hill.

On March 3, 1931, during the Great Depression, the United States Congress transferred the park to be managed by the Fish and Wildlife Service as a wildlife refuge, where hunting is permitted with the Spirit Lake Tribe having both fishing and hunting rights. It is one of only seven National Parks to have been disbanded. Of these seven parks, only White Horse Hill and Mackinac National Park in Michigan, now Mackinac Island State Park, are no longer under the control of the National Park Service.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"They're trying to build a prison!"

"For you and me to live in!"

"They're trying to build a prison!"

"FOR YOU AND ME!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

This prison was made for you and me 🎶

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