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The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.

“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”

She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.

“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”

Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.

“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”

She said the agents didn’t care.

“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”

Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”

“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”

Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.

“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”

Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.

“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.

Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So you are saying that crooks could just type up fake ICE warrants and rob rich people?

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 5 days ago (34 children)

Why is ICE seizing anything outside of whoever they supposedly had a warrant for? Did the warrant say take all electronics and valuables as they are being used to hide/fund someone we don't like, but the people that live their, yeah their fine let them be? Like what? How is this not just want to be terrorists fucking over people with impunity?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How do you know they are even ICE. Not saying they aren't agents, but there was an EO that basically repurposed a lot of other agencies to become ICE deputies. DEA, ATF, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Generally the search and seizure is for the property, not the people. That's IF they bother with a warrant which apparently is a big ask these days.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”

sounds like face eating.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Not the family? Whatever! Take them anyway

-ICE

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago

A lot of communities now have local organizations with armed volunteers ready to show up and stop ICE.

Try to look around for your local leftist orgs, if one isn't already doing this then it's probably coming soon or just one comment away from realizing it's a good idea.

Find your local orgs, stay in contact, stay organized, and stay armed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago

Technically, it was the correct home, just the occupants changed.

Man, if only there was some way to determine who the correct residents are BEFORE doing a raid... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago

100% Fascism.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

That’s how Kristi Noem gets all her walking around cash

[–] [email protected] 133 points 5 days ago (19 children)

Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.

I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...

It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...

The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...

218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

Let's see, take New York for example.

26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

Every fucking vote counts.

And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.

House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

Democrats would need ~18 seats.

First, that won't happen in 2026.

Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...

Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

  • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
    • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
      • North Carolina (Budd-R)
      • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
    • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
      • Iowa (Ernst-R)
      • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
      • Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
      • Kansas (Marshall-R)
      • South Carolina (Graham-R)
    • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
      • Texas (Cornyn-R)
      • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
      • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
      • West Virginia (Capito-R)
      • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
      • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
      • Idaho (Risch-R)
      • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
      • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
      • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
      • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
  • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
    • Highly Competitive Targets:
      • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
      • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
    • Stretch Targets:
      • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
      • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
    • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
      • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
      • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
      • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
      • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
      • Texas (Cruz-R)
      • Kentucky (Paul-R)
      • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...

We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Curious how they felt they were entitled to seize their electronics and savings. AFAIK "search warrants" are typically isolated to specific people and property, not a free-for-all where they can just take anything they feel like taking. However, I saw it mentioned in a previous post about this that these agents aren't even getting search warrants but a "writ" and that agents are intentionally conflating the two in the media in order to provide a false sense of legitimacy to their illegal and unconstitutional actions.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago

Welcome to the world of civil asset forfeiture. That family will have to prove that that money was not the proceeds of a crime to get it back. And yes, that is a reversal of the standard: the money is guilty until proven innocent.

The US justice system has been subverted long before Trump to enable absurd shit like this that are obviously in violation of the 4th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The US is now soviet russia.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“What if I would have been armed,” she said.

What, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

She'd be dead but possibly celebrated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Okay why the fuck did this post get deleted.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Was it deleted? It seems fine on my end though I might be missing something. My best guess and the only logical thing to suspect. Is that pointing out fascists would gleefully kill anyone who resists them was somehow mistaken as call for violence. Not just simply acknowledging the behavior of fascists.

I'm not a big advocate for arming in general. In a just Civil Society there should be no need for weapons and guns. However we don't live in such a society at this point. And I think it's a good idea for everyone especially the vulnerable and minorities to arm themselves in the face of the fascist. But I certainly will not scold them for not doing so. Because it absolutely could escalate things and cost them their life. It's going to happen at some point though. I don't want it to, but if people keep failing to put the fascists down. It will

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Might have been “because repost.”

To your other points, everything good must be backed up with “We’ll fight you to the death over this if we have to.”

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (4 children)

"Woman with no active warrants shot by police searching for illegal immigrant gang members"

--Mass media

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

"Woman with no active warrants shot ~~by police searching~~ during search for illegal immigrant gang members"

I think this is how it would likely be reported. Making it a more passive action would shield responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

The fecklessness of the mass media, and anyone that believes journalism is just repeating/reporting on what was said is certainly without end. Any journalist or Outlet that frets over access to groups or individuals because of their reporting aren't involved in journalism. Just complicit in aiding propaganda. And we've just described almost every last bit of a media sadly.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

That's disgusting!!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

1000024598

In all seriousness these are the stories that have actually been reported, which means there are probably a lot more that have not been reported. Hope people start to rise up.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm hoping too. Serious, concerning lack of retaliation or resistance fighting.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some people haven’t experienced anything bad yet, so they don’t care. Some people realize that once the fighting starts we’re all fucked for the next few decades at minimum and for a few centuries worst-case. And some people are positively thrilled by what’s happening and are cheering everything on.

Hence why there’s no rioting, yet. I hope it’s coming, that we don’t just roll over like the Iranians and the Russians did for their autocrats, but I also fear that it is coming.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Biggest gang showing off their thuggery.

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[–] [email protected] 424 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Illegal search and seizure. Where's the nra? The various groups that swore to uphold the constitution?

[–] [email protected] 188 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

"Marisa. Sounds Mexican, she deserves it probably."

-NRA

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fairly sure it's Italian/Spanish actually. But, most republicans probably think of them as the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You know an awful lot about them foreigners.

I think you are one too.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 days ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Not any more

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 days ago

The US GeStaPo does not care about illegal. For them, the only illegals are their targets.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It should be illegal...

But with alternating between Republicans and neoliberals for 50 years, no one has ever actually put in serious effort to reign in police. Asset seizure is 100% legal and since they're "charging" the money/property there's no presumed innocence.

Biden didn't fix policing, Obama didn't, and under Clinton it got worse in large part due to a bill Biden wrote.

Obviously Republicans have been worse, but the point is shit doesn't ever get better.

We have a good DNC now, that won't block good candidates, but that's a very recent development

Quick edit:

This meant to be a reply to someone else, but something weird is happening

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We have a good DNC now, that won't block good candidates, but that's a very recent development

Wouldn't be so sure about that. Ken Martin is out there trying to stop David Hogg from primarying incumbents.

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