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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been told that my only job is to go home at night.

And yet simply withdrawing from a benign situation rather than escalating it to the point of violence seems to be beyond their grasp.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or maybe deescalate, like police forces in other countries do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh that’s exactly what they do, it’s just that their training is to de-escalate by shooting first and sorting it all out later.

Going home at night is paramount to being a peace officer after all.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Apparently, when women first started as police officers, in the UK, they were paired up with male officers. The logic being that the man can provide muscle, if needed.

It's now been found that 2 women officers are far more effective, particularly with drunk men. A male officer can restrain them. A female officer can talk them into coming quietly.

Oh, and the UK police were the first to "raise concerns" when the government suggested arming beat officers with guns. They did NOT want to be armed.

Basically, it's perfectly possible to police primarily by consent, and get the job done.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Remember that's police sued to be able to discriminate against people with high iqs

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

And sued to not be required protect people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

pretty sure i read somewhere that if you excel in the academic portion of the academy youre disqualified for being too smart under the guise of some other excuse. critical thinking isnt something they want in the force.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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It'd be cool if the post linked to source & and maybe had/was text.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I searched for "Katie Sponsler I have been told" found the thread but it had been deleted from twitter. Fortunately, someone had archived it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Ayyy, the real MVP.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Katie Sponsler @KatieSponsler Jan 28 2023

I have been taught to yell "stop resisting" and "drop your weapon" after firing a gun, because bystanders will remember you said it and their memory will automatically reverse the order of the events to make it make sense. Their testimony will support yours, because of this.

I have been told to "loosen up and have fun, it's fun! Why are you so serious?" When doing a shoot/don't shoot scenario training.

I have been told that deescalation techniques will get me and other officers killed and as a smaller LEO, I was justified escalating my use of force faster than my colleagues because I was always in danger so I should use it.

I've been told my only job is to go home at night.

been told all of these things in formal, controlled and regulated Police Academies. I have gone through 3. I have heard some of these things more than once.

When I questioned these things in my third academy, and stated that they were inconsistent with the ethics of policing, I was kicked out of the academy on my last day. I had completed and excelled at all the graded tasks, but was told "you aren't what we want in our force."


Looks like her Twitter account has been deleted, though, so there is no source anymore. Regardless, all of this is pretty damn well corroborated, so even if this exact take is fluff, the police very much do select for bastards.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago
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