Onward we march in goose step with history
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Seems like a good way to stop all non citizens from accessing the legal system.
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I don't see any mention of a warrant.
Not that I'm surprised by that, but to say this is an "escalation" is an understatement.
This is a declaration of absolute power.
Edit: she was released on bond. Meaning a magistrate validated a warrant. Who signed the warrant?
Editl 2: Magistrate Dries did, yesterday. FBI Agent Lindsay Schloemer filed the complaint. Interestinginly Dugar wasn't the only judge who told the ICE officers to fuck off (in legal terms). She just told them then defendant and his attorney they could leave because ICE didn't have the correct warrant.
~~F B I~~ ⚡️⚡️
"Judges? Where we're going, we won't need judges." *proceeds to fly away in the original Volkswagen*
Yeah this is pretty fucking blatant
More info on the circumstances: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/23/ice-arrested-mexican-immigrant-after-hearing-before-judge-dugan/83233154007/
Last week's arrest marked at least the third time in recent months that federal immigration agents have come to the courthouse with arrest warrants. In March and early April, two people were arrested by ICE officials in the hallways of the courthouse.
Following the earlier arrests at the courthouse, county officials and stakeholders expressed concerns about the impact ICE's presence has on immigrants' accessing the justice system and other services at the courthouse.
"The last thing we want is to interfere with the legal process or sow doubt in those summoned to the courthouse about whether or not they will receive fair, impartial justice," Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley said at the time.
This is how civil war starts. If the judiciary starts issuing arrest warrants over this unlawful kidnapping, they may need to deputize officers that are not under the control of the trump admin which could pit our armed forces against each other. Best case scenario is the judiciary finds the arrest unlawful and the FBI backs down because they're being threatened with contempt.
You're not wrong, but this has nothing to do with the armed forces. I went down a rabbit hole at one point regarding what a "duly sworn" officer is. My conclusion was that if a judge needed to have someone arrested, they can reach out to any public police officer who has sworn an oath to the Constitution. Each state has its own groups of duly sworn law enforcement officers, and if a Federal judge doesn't trust the US Marshals (who are part of the DoJ) they can likely reach our to State or local police to enforce their orders.
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Qualified immunity applies to the executive branch, not to the judiciary. Cops aren't getting arrested for this.
I fear the majority of trigger-pullers are pro-trump and pro-deportation, no matter where they live. I fear that "revolution" will entail the United States' progressives getting absolutely brutalized until the regime seizes total control.
They may be able to defend the farmland but they won't be able to hang when it gets to urban combat.
you might be surprised. there are those who are very open about owning weapons, but there are just as many who do not flaunt what they're equipped with. there are still lots of reasons left-leaning people might own guns, like hunting, self defense, pure hobby shooting, etc. i think progressive people have been stereotyped as anti-gun because they tend to be anti-kids-getting-shot-in-school, but they're not quite the same thing.
it's possible progressive might be out-gunned, but it's by no means a guarantee.
Liberal gun owner here, yup.
Wife wanted to get me a tactical looking cross body bag but I was like, "nah, I need something Italian, leather, and looks like I keep my lip balm in it instead of my gun".
I'm talking about the police, the federal agents, national guardsmen and regular army. The people who are ostensibly trained to shoot people. I don't know if there is enough sympathy in the establishment to mount a meaningful resistance. I don't like our odds if they mount a united front against a disparate population of scared but armed civilians, banal arguments about drone strikes and such aside.
good point and not something to be trivialized. it would be devastating and the toll to life and limb would be high. but i take solice in the fact that even then, they'd be greatly outnumbered by non-establishment citizenry. im just saying it wouldnt be a landslide victory and theyd face a (probably) reasonably well equipped guerilla resistance force that wouldnt just fade away.
side note, i also find the drone arguments to be kind of irritating. technically yes they could carpet bomb the US and drone strike every apartment building where some resistance leader is living, but then they'd just be the king of a wasteland.
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Learn how to use the tools at your disposal y’all.
Valhalla before El Salvador.
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This is a clear authoritarian signal and power grab, but trying to think practically since I'm getting exhausted with my own powerless exasperation with nothing to show for it:
To get an arrest warrant, you typically would need a judge to sign off on it. So either (a) another judge signed the warrant to arrest this judge, or (b) they falsely arrested the judge without a proper warrant.
I think (b) is possible with how slipshod Trump officials are, but more likely they followed the letter if not the spirit of the law, so (a). That suggests that there may be a pocket judge signing spurious warrants for Patel. This also makes more sense, since they likely need cover when assisting ICE, so they'd want someone in that role.
So in a healthy system, first would be Congress forcibly removing Patel. Probably every GOP congressperson's response here will be "I haven't heard about that, now I'll walk away down this hall casual-like because frankly nobody is going to hold me accountable." The other less direct approach would be to identify this judge then there may be a removal process. What other things can be done here short of revolution?
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I know trumpers won’t ever hear about this or if they do it will be a completely twisted story and they’ll think the judge shot at the ice agents or something but the amount of mental effort it has to take to not see this as a tinpot dictator move is unbelievable. It’s hard to believe people this dumb walk among us and go to work and everything
Increased danger to the public?
If dude was already out and about and minding his business, dude continuing to be out and about keeps the amount of danger just about the same.
He was also not out and about and minding his business, he was already in the courthouse in front of the judge. There was no danger to the public because he was at the courthouse. If anything, ICE created the danger by chasing him out of the courthouse and escalating the situation.
Hey guys, it’s a really good sign when judges are getting arrested, right? Very normal and functioning country? 😬
And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*
Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: "Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15."
Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.
Nah, this is more akin to the Gleichschaltung. The Night of the Long Knives was the Nazis purging their own.
I disagree- I think Gleichschaltung has been underway since day one. This is a much more heinous overstep of the executive branch, imo
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The problem with the MAGA/Nazi comparison is not that MAGA isn't as evil, it's that they're less competent.
And why is that a problem? It sounds like a hindrance to them, which is a definite good thing.
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accusation is:
“intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Eduardo Flores Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse last week.
so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….
so it’s not the long knives yet, she a hero, but it’s not the mass revenge murders… yet
It doesn't have to match. It just has to rhyme.
i get it, we’re just not there yet and there’s still time to buy guns before it happens.
a judge can’t lie to federal agents who are trying to arrest someone in their courtroom. It sounds like she did.
this should be encouraging, if anything… this judge put herself on the chopping block in order to defy an immoral but legal order… she’s also probably well versed in the law.
this is the kind of resistance we need! a great ally, and a heroic act…
a martyr.
when they start arresting judges who make rulings they don’t like, that’s the night of long knives rhyming
we should worry about getting this judge elected into political office or something….
and also practice target shooting…
If it's true. These could be manufactured charges. I don't trust Patel or the Trump administration to be honest about that.
Patel in his tweet wrote that the FBI believes Dugan “intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse.
“Thankfully our agents chased down the perp on foot and he’s been in custody since, but the Judge’s obstruction created increased danger to the public,” Patel said in the post.
And they all clapped at the end.
certainly could be completely fictional charges… if anyone is equipped to fight that, it’s a judge…
That's if they give the judge due process, and don't just immediately claim she's guilty- kinda like they're doing to people they're deporting already. Not a stretch to just skip her due process at this point.
that would be a HUGE stretch
How? They're taking people with no due process and deporting them already. Why would her being a judge make her position any different, if they are skipping due process again? This administration has shown that they don't care about due process- they just make an accusation, and then go straight to "guilty until proven innocent."
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That's just the official language. They may not kill her, but they are going to remove anyone that gets in their way is what this says to me.
They're going to use her as an example for the justification to arrest other judges as well. This is unprecedented and is going to lead to open violence in the streets.
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Senators, governors, and mayors of "sanctuaries" are going to be close behind.
Once the non-loyal judges are imprisoned, everyone else who isn't white and Republican will also be on the chopping block.
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