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Transatlantic airfares have dropped to rates last seen before the pandemic, data shows, the latest sign that fewer Europeans are traveling to the U.S. due to concerns about U.S. border controls and Donald Trump's policies.

The trend could extend into and beyond the summer holiday period, typically the busiest time for airlines and travel companies.

Overseas arrivals to the United States fell 2.8% in May from a year ago, according to preliminary data from the U.S. National Travel and Tourism Office within the U.S. Department of Commerce. Travel from Western Europe fell 4.4% in May, led by a decline in travelers from Denmark and Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

First: deport European tourists, fuck up several times with other deportations to El Salvador concentration camps or African war zone....

"Why don't Europeans come here, do you see how Europe just uses us by emptying American tourists' wallets while not traveling here in return? Europe sucks!"

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

Wise. Don’t come to this Nazi playground.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wanted to go to the US since the eighties but I couldn't afford it back then. By the time I could afford it, 9/11 had rolled around together with the suspension of civil rights and all the associated insanity. Then I thought I'd wait for sanity to return. I'm still waiting and I'm getting increasingly pessimistic I'll live to see that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Come to Canada instead! The food isn't loaded with corn syrup!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why would you want to go to the US?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Grand Canyon

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are so many excellent reasons to visit the US... just not necessarily right now.

Our cities are fun to explore and have great restaurants and museums. Most need a car to explore, unfortunately, but some don't. Our nature is honestly amazing. From forests to deserts to mountains to beaches to lakes and rivers. Yes, other places have some of those, but not many countries have all of those.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US is gigantic we've got something for everyone here. In particular there are massive national forests with trails of any size you can think of (the Palouse Cascades trail goes from Seattle all the way to Idaho it's 300 miles long, the Appalachian trail takes months to hike the full distance). We've also got a lot of different cultures to explore, foods to eat, and history to see.

For sure don't come here currently our government is dangerous and we don't deserve tourist money. There are lots of reasons why someone might want to come to the US though.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago

Hike the Appalachian trail and look at all the trash then get rocky mountain spotter fever or that disease that makes you allergic to red meat from ticks. Then get murdered by a lunatic or robbed at gunpoint.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's some cool nature there I'd like to see, so that's one reason

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Come to Canada. We have cool nature too but without the risk of being detained for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I'd definitely come to Canada over the U.S as it stands today.

In another time, if the U.S manages to beat their fascism-issue, I'd like to go there as well.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

We suck but we do have some cool shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Lets get to 100%

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"We don't want them here anyway" - some MAGA idiot, presumably

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

That's how people frame it here to. "Why would I want to go to that 3rd world country anyway." Personally I think it sucks. Like yeah there's a lot of valid criticism regarding the US, even before factoring in the current regime situation. But feelings aside it's a vast and diverse country with a lot of beautiful nature and interesting history (despite what people say) and I'd really like to go some day. Especially Washington, California, Colorado, Texas and Louisiana all fascinate me in unique ways. Alas, it'll be some years before thinking about that vacation makes sense again.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Work wanted me to go to the US for a thing and thankfully I had family reasons for being able to say no. I'm not setting foot in that country in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Yeah, a friend of mine literally told them "I'd rather let you fire me than end up in El Salvador".

They didn't fire him. The US client was infuriated, but now they meet in Canada or London.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

"fuck you, I'll go to Canada and we can have the meeting like prisoners talking to their family"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

need to pump up those percentages.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Most people book this kind of holiday a year in advance. The people still coming to the US booked their holidays last year. There's going to be an enormous impact by next year.

I love the US, spent a lot of time there, worked there for years, I have family there. I'm not going back until Trump is gone and there is some kind normality returned - which might be a long time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Trump is a symptom, this isn't getting "better", the shit just gets normalized, then gets worse.

I lived there pre 9/11 for a time, never going back and that's as a cis straight white Gen X dude from Australia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Trump is just the pustule on a very deep zit. It won't be over without some serious reform.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Bruh. It's likely to be never. We aren't recovering from this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I live in Canada. I used to visit the States probably every other year. Then Trump was elected in 2016, and I stopped going. Then covid happened, so I figured I'd wait a bit longer. And now it'll be another 3 years until I even consider it, but that largely depends on what happens in that time span. It's not out of the question to just never visit again. There are plenty of other places in the world that I haven't seen yet.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But the countries that come after what used to be the USA might be nice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah the Indepedent Republic of California would be a nice place to visit after they deport all of the the ICE goons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

The Acadian Union (or whatever New England and the tri-state area become) should be pretty cool too.