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Summary

Trump reportedly held up a digitally altered image of the hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man who was deported by the Trump administration, in an attempt to prove Garcia is a gang member.

Trump can be seen holding a printed-out photo... demonstrating that "MS-13" is tattooed across his knuckles.

"This is the hand of the man that the Democrats feel should be brought back," Trump posted. However, many have pointed out that the image appears photoshopped.

"MS-13 looks like it was typed on the photo." "Needing to have a photo doctored... is definitely something a psychopath would do."

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As it is just a photo of a hand, it could be anyones hand.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Elon should have picked his gooner squad for their skills instead of their sycophantcy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Also, weren't they already claiming he was part of some Venezuelan gang? MS-13 is an American gang of jailed Latinos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why would they Photoshop anything? Couldn't that just be a picture of a tattoo'd hand; there's nothing to identify Garcia.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

A TATTOO?! GUILTY! FEED HIM TO THE LIONS!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

These people are so fucking stupid. Footage from the Van Hollan meeting will come out soon and show this is clearly not a thing.

[–] [email protected] 250 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Alright, I'll take the bait. Let's all assume he has an MS-13 tattoo. What does this change? The dude still gets his constitutional rights, and his day in court. On US soil.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

And on top of all that, even if somehow you could justify foregoing due process, the dude STILL can't legally be sent to El Salvador because of his withholding of removal to that country which I'm pretty sure is what the"administrative error" was that the white house admitted lol.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This is what they always do, get you arguing about something that doesn't matter. Just eats up time and energy about nothing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

The goal is to use fear, hatred, bigotry etc as a means to normalize authoritarianism and the destruction of rights, in exchange for non-existent "security" and "protection".

See terrorism and pedophilia.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Never mind the top, what's up with the words underneath? No one would have their tattoo pics labeled for clarity like that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Actually these supposed to explain his tattoos, but the whole thing is still flimsy, see: https://lemm.ee/comment/19828278

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Absolute baby-town frolics.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

So first things first man, if you have gang ink they photograph that shit and validate them. He was arrested in 2019 so, show me his ink and the photos they took of it when they arrested him.

[–] [email protected] 137 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Here’s a closeup of the image

A Nigerian prince puts more effort into fooling people.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't even qualify as a Photoshop. It should be called an "MS Paint"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“MS Paint? That sounds an awful lot like MS-13! Off to the El Salvador gulag with you, terrorist scum!”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Microsoft made Internet Explorer: MSIE. Turn the E around and it's clearly a gang code. Can we send Microsoft to a gulag now? Windows 11 is also a crime against humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Wait, the letters are clearly digitally added on top of the photo, but aren't they just used to label the tattoos on each finger?

Not that would change anything...

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they wanted to indicate a translation for the symbols, they could have done so off of the part of the image consisting of the hand. Trump said verbatim “he’s got MS-13 tattooed onto his knuckles”. Not symbols for MS-13, the phrase itself. Additionally, the real tattoos are clearly not on the knuckles, but the photoshopped letters are. Trump believes the photoshopped letters are actual tattoos and/or wants to convince people of it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

He should have used a sharpie. It would be more convincing than the pixelated font that doesn't align wit the hand at all.

I have to think someone overlaid text on the photo to persuade people that the pictures on the fingers represented MS13, but Trump got the wrong end of the stick, made an idiot of himself in front of the media, and no one dared tell him he was a fucking moron.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

like (M)arijuana (S)miley …. then i suppose devils advocate could say cross is like a 1 and skull is a 3? though skull is more like an 8? but also totally not either so…

edit: after writing this I kept scrolling and others have posted similar things way before i did. So maybe that is the “official” line they’re going with.

edit2: guys, we’ve had it all wrong…

(W)eed, (D)ead, 4 (jezuz died 4 our zins) 0 (as in nothing, like no more, like… a skull.)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Omfg I literally had to double check this was really what trump was holding up. "internet sleuth" my ass, a ten year old could point out how stupidly fake this is.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That was my first reaction, but apparently the letters were placed there to explain the tattoos "meaning".

Supposedly:

Marijuana stands for M Smiley face stands for S Cross stands for 1 for some reason Skull stands for 3 for some reason

They forgot that:

  • wouldn't the text be in Spanish and not English?
  • MS 13 hand members are proud of being in it, they put giant letters on their chests, backs, face, if he wanted to hide it, why even bother having a tattoos? Wouldn't other gang members get upset that he is hiding it?

I also couldn't find pictures of anyone else from MS13 who was using such cryptic tattoos.

Also with the interpretation is that you can literally assign any meaning to it for example:

  • Pot
  • Ecstatic
  • "t"
  • Afterlife

This shows that Abrego Garcia is actually an animal lover and supports PETA.

But this is beside the point. The problem is he had no due process, and wasn't deported but human trafficked to a prison in 3rd world country.

If they have undeniable proof give it to the court and then either deport him or put him in US jail if he committed a crime.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

It's the default font. They didn't even bother to select an appropriate "gang" font.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It kind of looks like annotation to imply that the symbols actually on his hand mean MS-13, but I'd easily believe Trump is dumb enough to think he has "M S 1 3" printed in Arial font on his fingers.

If it is an annotation...show us those court records, you fascist son of a bitch.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's so obvious that the letters and numbers are there to show what the tattooed symbols represent. I feel like I'm in bizarro world that people don't understand that and think they've found some smoking gun.

It doesn't change the need for due process, but come on people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, that seems obvious to me too. I've got no clue how the symbols are supposed to represent the letters though. I've a friend who has similar symbols on her fingers and they don't stand for anything, they just look cool.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump's own words indicated that he thought the MS13 tattoos were on the knuckles, which is where the Arial font characters are. So either Trump doesn't know what a knuckle is, or he was speaking imprecisely, or he's a fucking moron, or all of the above.

In any case, as someone pointed out above, it's unlikely MS13 would be working with acronyms in English for their tattoos, especially acronyms in English that only 50% work because Marijuana Smiley Cross Skull says MSCS, not MS13.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't think Marijuana is an English word, do you?

Smile is sonrisa in Spanish, also...

The skull is still a puzzler though.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Yeah, the story should have been, "Trump comes up with another distraction to avoid admitting he's violating the Constitution," or at least, "Trump too stupid to understand a picture and says stupid thing."

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It looks like people believe the M S 1 3 annotations are what they are saying is on his hand. We're in some dire straits.

The annotations are bullshit tho

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

The annotations are bullshit tho

How so? Marijuana, Smile are pretty clear, the cross you can see in place of 1 on other MS13 tattoos (using image search of MS13 tattoos).

The only one I'm not sure of is the skull, but the available image is a bit blurry. Maybe the 2 eye holes plus the nose hole?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s sharpie gate all over again!

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