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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Apollo 1 resulted in a lot of improvements regarding fire safety.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Empires wasting resources on nonflammable space pens while the whole planet burns.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I have one on my keychain, highly recommend

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

NASA used crayons before those space pens, and iirc the pens were available for a while before they tried them

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is inaccurate. Graphite is not flammable. It forms small particles that, mixed with air, could combust in a dust explosion, just like flour.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm probably just being dense but what's the difference between being flammable and being susceptible to combustion?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

In technical safety terms, combustibles are harder to ignite than flammables. So diesel and olive oil are combustibles, for example, because neither of them give off enough ignitable vapour at room temperature. Ethanol does, so it gets classified as flammable, and you need to store and handle it more carefully than diesel. Then there's really horrible stuff like triethylborane which will catch fire upon meeting oxygen even at temperatures well below the freezing point of water

Of course in casual usage they mean the same thing

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're not dense for asking a question. Without asking questions, it's Impossible to learn.

The flash point is different. The flash point is the temperature that is necessary to create enough vapor for the substance to ignite.

Flammable material has a low flash point, which means it catches on fire easily. Think gasoline. Combustibles need a higher initial temperature, but eventually they will burn and sustain the burning until running out. Think wood.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Makes perfect sense, thank you

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They’re referring to the relationship between surface area and combustion. Talc, for example, melts but does not burn. Talc powder can ignite if blown over an open flame.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

My first thought was: "I must try this". I need to read my house insurance policy first.

Curiosity got the better of me when I waved an alcohol wipe over an open flame. There's still a dark mark on the office carpet tile from where I had to stamp it out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Let it be someone else’s carpet. Or in this case, driveway.

https://youtu.be/Ce_uT1TXYr0

Skip to 3:10 for the action.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Please invest in a fire blanket and keep it near by when you do stupid things with fire.

Signed, a fellow fire bug

Mine paid for itself the first time a flame got out of control while I was having some fun. No lasting burns to human or objects in my office lol.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

You misgendered round spicy flames

[–] [email protected] 532 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

The reason not to use pencils in Space wasn't that Pencil are inflamable, the main reason was the graphit dust produced by Pencils, which because of the lack of gravity, enter floating in the electronic, causing short circuits as main risk.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably not great for eyes or noses or filtration systems either

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Twist: you’re the filtration system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess we are in a way a filtration system that removes oxygen from the air...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ok there Ongo Baglogian

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

That is something I found weird, too. Inflammable and flammable mean the same thing!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Technically, I think they're different. Flammable means that it can be lit on fire, like wood or something. Whereas inflammable means it can catch fire on its own, like gas, for example.

Edit: after some googling, it appears that my source was shit and should be disregarded. They do indeed appear to be synonyms. And also, I was thinking of gasoline. I think I was thinking of the "gas pedal" and that threw me off.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Plus, inhaling graphite dust since it doesn't fall doesn't sound fun.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s carbon dust, which your body is pretty good at dealing with, and in quantities so trivial you probably already inhale more currently than you would using a pencil in an otherwise mostly sterile spaceship (at least sterile compared to earth)

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago

Plus, graphite dust and electronics are also not a great combination.

[–] [email protected] 188 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Besides that, NASA wasn't the one that funded the research behind the pen, they bought the completed pens. The expenses for the research were funded by Fisher

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