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In 50 years, history will speak about ICE the way we speak about the SS now.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

At this point, we should be saying "alleged US citizen" and drop the "mistakenly."

No American should consider themselves as citizens anymore. With the ignoring of court orders and the disregard for due process, nobody is safe.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Obviously this is incredibly racist. They are just going after non whites, predominantly Latino and Asian, because they are not white. It's 100% racism.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are deporting and detaining Europeans too. It’s racism and non-race based xenophobia all at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

So would it be a good idea or bad idea to speak in some kind of European accent whenever one is dealing with these people, if one is trying to emigrate anyway?

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're deporting non-citizens without due process, which means that anyone can be deported. All they have to do is claim they thought someone wasn't a citizen, at which point there's no due process for you to prove that you are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I heard there are a bunch of illegals near 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Lets get a Militia to perform citizen's arrest and then ship them to Iran.

Then we declare Morgan Freeman to become the acting president.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Morgan Freeman is a conservative who might very well have voted for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its a joke referring to London Has Fallen where the president was take hostage, and Morgan Freeman was VP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh, I think I might have seen that back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What surprises me most about this encounter is that ICE actually backed off when they saw the guy's proof of citizenship. It means they actually feared punishment for getting it wrong.

And I will remind everyone who has any melanin at all to get a Passport Card. That's what this guy likely had, and it was the best $30 he ever spent. Get yours now, before they get DOGEd.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I assume they were hired before this administration. Those hired by the current administrarion would be a lot worse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For now. I fully expect them to start saying "this is fake" and confiscating it and arresting you, regardless of its actual validity.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

And this is the issue with the people saying “only citizens deserve due process”… If you don’t get due process, how are you supposed to prove you’re a citizen?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Things may already be getting iffy at the state department. My wife and I both put in passport renewal requests on the same day in February. She got her new passport in the mail about 2 weeks later. Mine took another 6 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

...he's a traitor...take him in...when the records disappear...just a small sin....ffs

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

"Mistakenly"

[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Many of us have been comparing ICE and the SS since it's inception alongside the Department of Homeland Security post-9/11.

9/11 ended up being way more successful than Osama Bin Laden could ever have imagined. It just took an extra 25 years for the Republican party to destroy the country from within like he wanted.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Wikipedia recently added DHS to the list of Secret Police organizations. 👀

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Department of Homeland Security

This is something that's always chilled me since they created it. To me, "Homeland" always had that echo of Nazi Germany's "Fatherland".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the same creepy category, the Department of Defense used to be called the Department of War until 1947. Wouldn't be surprised if they switched back soon.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They won't. They switched it because it's easy to justify spending any amount of money on "defending" yourself. If they switched it back, it would cost them some support.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Yup, euphemistic language is preferred. It's all very Orwellian. Soon the Supreme Court will be the Department of Truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Department of Homeland Security" is almost as oxymoronic as "Military Intelligence" or "Department of Justice"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is military intelligence oxymoronic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you ever met anyone in active duty? Every single marine is fueled by a six pack of Monster, punching each other in the dicks for fun, and eating crayons for lunch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have actually, even talked in depth with a few at a country fayre after the recruiter had pissed off along with on several RAF & Army bases the actual soldiers are generally quite intelligent and those working in SIGINT are often very intellignet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet they're still tricked into bombing brown kids over a WMD lie or for the religious act of patriotism. Doesn't sound very intelligent to me, it's like saying Oxford/Harvard educated math nerds making millions trading in high finance are smart because they think mathematical models of reality are more accurate than reality itself.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Muh Palestine" I don't really care, what was done in GWOT was wrong but given the world is now heating up I fully support increasing defence spending to protect the nation from potentially hostile powers which could at this stage potentially include the USA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point with such an "intelligent" take.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

You didnt really have a point, just a very mediocre attempt at trying to shit on the military.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fatherland is still used in many countries/languages, hell even polish uses "Ojczyzna".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s a German furniture store in operation today called Lebensraum, which absolutely gutted me when I first saw it, but it also just means habitat/living space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's the other interpretation? I just see living-room

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It is to nazism, what manifest destiny is to American imperialism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a Nazi rhetoric term for displacing Slavs and taking their living space

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I see, that makes it a lot worse

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Innocent until proven brown

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Brown until proven white and rich.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And even then Im white but Im Mexican born. My brother and I are currently figuring out what we do if we get deported as I lived in Mexico for a few months before being naturalized in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sorry you’re dealing with this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

As am I. I took Latin in school. Mi Espanol es muy malo pero yo entendiendo mas de me hablar?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the opposite is more accurate.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So, "Guilty until proven white"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Brown until proven white

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Thank you I was trying to figure out how guilty until proven brown worked in this situation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

i hate myself for upvoting you