She's RIGHT! Which is why I'm GLAD the DNC is tapping Known Fighters JOE BIDEN and KAMALA HARRIS to come back!
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Until they're willing to take off the gloves and directly and publicly attack corrupt Democrats, this is just noise. I'm done voting for Democrats. We need a new party.
I interject reality into my wants. The reality is, and this cannot be understated, we must unite behind WHOEVER has a chance of beating the fascist oligarchy. Priorities people, priorities. Your statement, when enacted is partly how we arrived where we are now.
Edit: Just to be clear. I absolutely agree with her and I also agree with you. I just will not make it a hard line. Putting our votes behind a losing ticket does not help in this situation since we may have already passed the point of no return in terms of our votes counting. If we don't unite now, I for one am convinced that will be our last chance, IF it even exists.
Some people under 50 yo would be good, do we have age distrubution data for the dem party?
Yes. Go primary Chuck out of office and make somebody with a fucking spine the minority leader.
The Dems don't just need "brawlers" but they also need people willing to get dirty. If you know pro wrestling, Eddie Guerrero at one time had a gimmick that included the slogan "I lie, I cheat, I steal" that is the mindset democratic operatives have to get into and party members have to at least accept, if they want any chance of beating the GOP.
The Dems don't seem to understand that there is no bottom for how low the GOP will go, and that means they are going to have to get dirty and do and say things that will haunt them, but it will be for the good of the entire country and if they truly care about democracy and this country they will fall on that sword and dive head first into that mud pit.
*Sorry for the run on's and ranting.... ADHD stream of consciousness.
Personally, I think the problem the Democrats have is that they've become corrupt. Becoming more corrupt isn't going to help them.
They rationalise taking bribes from corporations as "fund raising" and say that it's the only way to win elections. Well you know who wins elections without lobbying? Bernie and AOC. Both run through publicly funded campaigns., and this is why they can represent the needs of the people and not corporations and billionaires.
All very true, it would probably take a lot of new blood coming in who would be willing to not only fight dirty but also rely on public small dollar donations.
Reject the corporate bribery, build a true grass roots machine, and ultimately reject and actively fight against the current party leadership.
And DNC says it's time to just be turtles.
Please let dnc finally clean house
Turtles is too kind. It's more like fainting goats
Never will. We need a new party, not a new democrat
No, we need to take over the Democratic party. If you realistically want to actually win as opposed to grandstand.
And how do you propose we wrest control of the Democratic Party from its corporate overlords and put the power in the hands of the working class?
Seems about as farfetched as a new party imo, but I'd love to hear a realistic plan.
Having leftists actually JOIN the Democratic and work to promote their own vision would be a huge start. I've noticed a crisis online where very leftist or progressive people are constantly talking about "those Dems" and what "they're" doing.
We start by making the conversation about "us" and not "them". Take some personal responsibility. It astounds me that leftists et al are so butthurt about the lack of their preferred ideology within Democratic ranks when hardly anybody with said ideology are making themselves known within Democratic ranks.
We do what MAGA did. Co-opt existing party infrastructure around a populist, progressive leadership and message.
Have you actually tried to do this?
Personally, I've tried to reform the democratic party from the inside for the last 20 years, and I've given up, I think it's a foolheardy endeavor.
Corporate interests are thoroughly entrenched in the party at every level. The democratic party has set up so many structural hurdles that make it nearly impossible for a progressive challenger to have a shot.
Take a small example: when I was volunteering for two different local progressive challengers, they both had extreme difficulty doing basic campaign things like printing flyers, road signs, pamphlets etc. Why? Because the Democratic Party has a explicit policy of blacklisting any vendor who aids a progressive challenger. No print shop would print our flyers.
There are so many structural hurdles like this set up by the Democratic Party, I would encourage you to volunteer and find out how bad it is for yourself.
Trump managed to do something similar to the GOP while being a gibbering idiot and saying the evil shit his base of deplorables wanted to hear. So I dunno, maybe say the shit the working class wants to hear?
this photo makes it look like there's a comic book effect emphasizing her pointing.
We need to elect communists and socialists from 1910 you know the ones world governments were so goddamn scared of they started multiple wars to try to eradicate the ideal as a whole. Didn't work but they certainly tried anyway.
There's a saying that "you can't shoot an idea."