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[–] [email protected] 207 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Mod notice: It is important to keep in mind that we are all strangers on the internet here, and it is therefore important to exercise critical thinking when it comes to medical advice and related questions.

Anything you read here has the potential to be completely made up and/or wrong, including this mod notice.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

including this mod notice

Ahem you're wrong πŸ€“

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Well, I made it up, I didn't copy it from somewhere. In other words, I'm contributing OC, here...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Don't vote Republican

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

I think official government advice at this point is to find an infected person and snort their sore spots.

I would go with a vaccine, otherwise I suppose isolate from society.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Healthcare professional here - but not your HPC and you cannot confirm that I am who I am so double check what I write:

  • Get your titers checked and get revaccinationes asap. If you are not vaccinated or are a non-responder talk to your healthcare provider. Isolate until then.

  • Mask up and keep your hands away from mouth, eyes and nose. You will need a properly fitting FFP3/NP95 mask here - measles are far meaner in terms of infectiousness than COVID. Tight fitting means: You have no leaks at the side - if your glasses fog up, if you can feel air going in or out next to your face,etc. it is not working. The usual "duckbill" masks with straps around the ears very very rarely fit properly.

  • Wash your hands and desinfect them properly.

  • Stay the fuck away from babies. Really. Please.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the glasses fogging up has been somewhat debunked. you can have a mask pass a fit test and still fog up your glasses because you're still exhaling moist/hot air through your mask even when it fits properly.

also the N95 equivalent would be FFP2

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Nope,it hasn't. If your glasses are fogging up in sync with your respiration rate or within a very short timeframe your mask is not sealing. Period. The only difference is when you have either have a valve mask, work with a face shield or similar things or in confined spaces - it's basically impossible to fog up your glasses with a correctly positioned mask as the filter medium does work as a diffuser. If your mask does fog up suddenly despite a confirmed fit it usually is a warning sign for a breakdown of the filter medium.

(And believe me, we tried really hard - as part of a customer contract we tested all major mask manufacturers available in the EU, with a sample size in the 4 digit range, including UV fluid and thermal imaging tests)

I am fully aware that the equivalent of N95 is often seen as comparable to FFP2, but this is not actually quite correct. The FFP2 has a slightly worse filtration rate and a slightly higher resistance both for inspiration and expiration. Anyway, I intentionally wrote FFP3 as this is the recommended FFP class for Measles while within the NIOSH legislation only a N95 is recommended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

punts baby away

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Any reason to not skip the titer test and just get an MMR booster (especially if you’re born in the 60s)?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Every vaccination has a (although very slim) chance to cause an adverse reaction. Around 5% of all people vaccinated have a minor skin reaction (which is physiological and not an anaphylaxis. 1% report joint pain.

But,more severely, 1-4 people out of a million develop a life-threatening anaphylaxis, 3 out 100.000 a serious blood clothing disorder. Very rarely(as in: Less than 1 in 1 Million), but with a slightly higher incidence of you are an adult pancreatitis and deafness is reported.

As medicine is always a game of chances we try not to risk things,even if they are rare.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

One I can think of... I want to my local pharmacy last week to get an MMR shot, and was refused. They pretty much wont do it without a Dr's order.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Regarding masks: if you have a beard: shave. Unless your beard is n95/ffp2 rated

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Mostly yes,but it is possible to have some beardstyles if you know very much what you are doing (and have a large head).

But the actual area of contact and to a certain degrees the areas around it need to be shaved properly,yes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You can always glob it full of petroleum jelly (I did quantitative fit testing for a time, it really works) but it's gross.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

that's fascinating. the mask innovation really astounds me sometimes in the best way

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

The obvious choice here is to get vaccinated if you're not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Being vaccinated and have this vaccination working is already a 97%+ protection. Add a mask, and it's even better. Maybe avoid hugging infected people...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

check to see if there's a mask bloc near you as they offer free respirators to anyone who needs them and they organize political actions to encourage mask wearing in all public spaces. https://maskbloc.org/. I also highly recommend r/Masks4All, their wiki is packed with so many tips on how to save money when buying masks in bulk. if you're comfortable with wearing an elastomeric respirator, your wallet is gonna thank you immensely as the price per lifetime use is laughably cheaper compared to buying disposable respirators multiple times per year. one model that I like is Honeywell 7700 with P100 filters.

one of the most effective individual actions you can take is fit-testing your respirator to make sure it's not leaking. stick to N95 respirators and higher and do a qualitative fit test at home. some mask blocs buy Portacount machines communally so they can offer free fit testing to the people who contact them. if that's not available locally, contact workplace safety companies to book a quantitative fit test with specialized equipment that you probably couldn't afford to buy for yourself. some of them also rent out Portacount machines although more rarely.

get educated on the swiss cheese model and stack up prevention methods instead of relying on a standalone one-size-fits-all solution.

you might wanna carry around an air purifier or build your own DIY model that's cheaper and more effective than most options on the market. you can also run it on a portable battery since the fans only consume 10W at max load. check out the r/crboxes subreddit if you need to ask questions, they're full of helpful people.

get connected with your local disability community as they have been battling eugenics for decades and developing novel ways of surviving pandemics since forever. ask your local immunocompromised neighbors what measures they're taking to stay alive. even if you're able-bodied, their safety measures will undoubtedly benefit you as well.

I'm leaving this option for last because it's not affordable for most people, but you might wanna look into Far-UVC lighting to disinfect the air. https://cybernightmarket.com/products/mini-far-uvc-lights-set

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What are your recommendations for people with small faces? Because I've never encountered an N95 that felt like it fit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I don't wear small size so keep that in mind when reading.

look through ppeo.com or on savewo.com. some models have size charts in the description but I wouldn't rely on them too much. the only way to know is to try every size and check which one fits you best. there are stores selling mask samples so you could use that. r/masks4all probably has a link.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Both shots leave you at 98% immunity. Then if you somehow beat those odds and still manage to get it, it will be much less severe.

You'll be totally fine. The only victims of measles in the US will mostly be. children of idiot parents, adults who had idiot parents and then became idiot adults, and people with actual medical issues that have prevented them from safely getting the vaccine.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And babies who are too young to have gotten the vaccine yet. 😞

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shouldn't the mother's immune system protect them until vaccination?

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Measles is the most infectious virus we know of. Contagion is measured by how many people the average patient will infect. Covid was a 4, measles is 18.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anti vaxxers really fucking shit up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

pro-vaxxers as well who stopped masking against covid

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just to add to the terror, measles can strip away previously held immunities. Had chicken pox as a child? If you get (and survive) measles you might get chicken pox again!

Source: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia

Get vaccinated, folks!

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