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Marjorie Taylor Greene, a prominent Republican congresswoman and a staunch ally of Trump, suggested a return to "measles parties" for children. She criticized contemporary attitudes towards vaccination, stating, "Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids."

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Arrest her for attempted homicide

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Thought the bitch was pro life? This seems quite anti-life to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thought the bitch was pro life?

That's a question? No, I didn't. Thanks for asking.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They’re not going to learn until they’re charged and convicted of homicide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

To be honest. They not going to learn until we address the people who enable her. The useful idiots, the ones who promote her for their own gains. Psy ops.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

bet she won't be censured for "decorum violations".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Grab her and plop her down in the middle of one the hotspots and don't let her out

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ she is a fucking moron

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I fully agree, i think all trump voters should go to measles parties.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their kids shouldn't suffer though

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I was a kid when they were first developing the vaccines for measles, mumps, and rubella (we called it German measles). So my brothers and I all got every one of them. I remember being sick with them, and with one of the measles types (don't remember which) I was so sick I though I was gonna die. I'll never forget lying there, even thinking of certain things made me puke (or dry heave) so I had to concentrate on not thinking of anything. I remember puking so hard it came out my nose. One of my brothers was so sick, his fever was so high, they took him to the hospital.

Do parents really want to put their children through this instead of a shot? WTF

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

should be child abuse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Just some of the ones that were vaccinated against measles.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They used to burn witches too...... just saying

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I spent SO MUCH TIME during my pediatrics clinical rotation explaining vaccines to new parents. In some cases, I sat there for a literal hour and debunked myths and conspiracy theories in order to get the parents to consider maybe doing a delayed vaccination schedule. I'm a medical student, so my time is basically worthless and I viewed this as a good use of it, but it was so incredibly frustrating to have to do over and over.

For other folks who know anti-vax parents (new or not), here's the best line of argument I came up with:

Vaccines have been around for a very long time now, and the only changes we've made to them recently is to make them better and safer. The preservatives in them like the mercury compound are perfectly safe, but we've still worked hard to improve the manufacturing process to minimize the need for those preservatives and make the vaccines as pure as possible.

Vaccines are made of little fragments of the virus or bacteria, or a modified, significantly weaker version of the pathogen to give your child's immune system a chance to see it before the real thing shows up. It's like giving your child's immune system a wanted poster or a punching bag to practice on because it has to make special tools to fight each different pathogen.

The reason we load kids up with so many vaccines in the first year or two of life is because their immune systems are still growing and it's an optimal time to introduce things for it to prepare for, and we want to give them some protection of their own before the antibodies from mom run out around 6 to 12 months of life.

We have decades of data showing that vaccines are safe and effective, and the complications and side effects are so minor compared to the problems that can come from the disease. And it's usually around 1000:1 ratio of complications from the disease versus complications from the vaccine, and the vaccine complications are almost always less severe than the complications from the disease.

If you refuse vaccination for your child for reasons besides an anaphylactic allergy to the ingredients, you are gambling your child's life with most of these diseases, and it would have been an entirely preventable death. Vaccines are very hard to make and we have prioritized making vaccines for the diseases that kill children. We don't bother making vaccines for things that are just a nuisance, so the vaccines we have exist for very good reasons. For the most famous example, measles has about 5 different ways it can kill your child that are impossible to treat or prevent once they have it, and many ways to cause permanent damage. The known and most common side effects of the measles vaccine are pretty mild and can be easily treated with medications we have available.

Edit: Fuck it. I've decided that I'm going to use some of my copious (/s) free time writing a children's and parents' book about vaccine safety with this argument. I will self publish if I have to and give it out in family medicine and pediatric clinics if it kills me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

We had our cats in for their annual checkups a few years back, and the vet noted they were due for their vaccinations. The way she said it, we could hear she was bracing for an argument. I wonder if someone had laid into her about it earlier that day.

We, of course, had the vaccinations done, much to her relief.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Another worth noting is if an antivaxxer says "we don't know what they put into vaccines", respond with "we don't know what they put in painkillers and yet you take them no problem". Nine times out of ten, these antivaxxers would take painkillers willy nilly without question. Saying this makes them question their line of thought. Heck, the same could be said just about anything. We don't know what cooks in restaurants put into the food we ordered, and yet there is no significant movement advocating to stop ordering takeaways or eating outside of home.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The sad thing about debunking is that you need to have direct contact with the person under a delusion to build rapport and need to be quite knowledgeable about the topic, but planting the the delusion can be done at a large scale by any eloquent doofus with time to spare. It's so frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It's definitely a starfish situation. You won't be able to save all of them, but you can make a difference to each individual that you help. It's my guiding principle in medicine for everything from preventative care to resuscitation. I can't save every patient, but I can do my best to help the one in front of me, and previous failures do not prevent future successes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is always harder to build than to destroy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Counterpoint: putting two flat Lego pieces together.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry for the kids, but I have simply given up to care about the members of this suicide cult.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a former child (read: captive) of ultra conservative christian fuckwits, I implore you to try to care. It’s not those kids’ fault they have shitty stupid parents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I do care and feel sorry for the kids, but I cannot change their parents.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I will always vote and support laws that allow children access to proven medical treatments without the permission from the parents.

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